John Terry

[d000hg]

Then I think we disagree about what makes someone a racist. Call him an arsehole, call him a c**t if you have to, but the N word is, by definition, a racist insult and someone who uses it is a racist.

I think a good rule of thumb is if the recipient considers it racist then it is.

You can do something racist without being a racist. I can call someone a n***** to upset them without believing there's anything bad about being black. Being a racist is about believing racist thoughts, not saying racist things.

The fact that you're an idiot is an objective opinion

That you think an opinion can BE objective is a good indicator that you are, in fact, the idiot.

[cailin maith]

I don't like the word and it offends me hearing it, but in the context of the story its hard to to mention the C word as its the football team he play's for.

I know it's just seeing it written and not starred out.

But I get what Doggy was meaning about it being seemingly less offensive than calling someone black.

[TheFaQQer]

I know it's just seeing it written and not starred out.

But I get what Doggy was meaning about it being seemingly less offensive than calling someone black.

Wooooosh!

[Churchill]

I don't know about "blind c***", but as I understand it when queried by an opponent Terry then said "I didn't call him a black c***, you knobhead."

Anton originally said he didn't hear it anyway.

Sorry about the c-word everybody, but I was crudely making the point was that calling someone 'black' these days seems to be worse than calling them a c***, which no-one seems bothered about.

I know it's just seeing it written and not starred out.

But I get what Doggy was meaning about it being seemingly less offensive than calling someone black.

Wooooosh!

I think you'll find that CM was referring to DoggyStyles' post.

What's your point?

[TheFaQQer]

I don't like the word and it offends me hearing it, but in the context of the story its hard to to mention the C word as its the football team he play's for.

I know it's just seeing it written and not starred out.

I think you'll find that CM was referring to DoggyStyles' post.

What's your point?

My point is that if you're going to refer to a post, then you need to quote that post

The joke from SimonMac's post seems to have gone over the head somewhat.

[Churchill]

My point is that if you're going to refer to a post, then you need to quote that post

The joke from SimonMac's post seems to have gone over the head somewhat.

Joke? Aren't they supposed to be funny?

[shaunbhoy]

You can do something racist without being a racist. I can call someone a n***** to upset them without believing there's anything bad about being black. Being a racist is about believing racist thoughts, not saying racist things.

Good luck with that defence in any court in the land.

[xoggoth]

that word is just so vile

The missus thinks the same. Why is reference to anglo saxon version of female naughty bits worse than male equivalent? Illogical captain.

[cailin maith]

The missus thinks the same. Why is reference to anglo saxon version of female naughty bits worse than male equivalent? Illogical captain.

Dunno - it just sounds awful and seems agressive and just generally vile.

Like I say no other swear word has that effect for me.

[d000hg]

Good luck with that defence in any court in the land.

In court a solicitor would show that the accused had black friends, etc, to demonstrate they didn't appear to be a racist just because they acted like a jackass in the heat of the moment.