Reply to: John Terry

[shaunbhoy]

In court a solicitor would show that the accused had black friends, etc, to demonstrate they didn't appear to be a racist just because they acted like a jackass in the heat of the moment.

So much like a solicitor might show that the old pensioner that did NOT pay her Council Tax, DID pay her gas bill, so no case to answer?

[d000hg]

I have no problem agreeing it is unacceptable (if he did it) and he should be punished as someone in the public eye. But punished for being a nasty div, not a racist.

[FiveTimes]

I'm bored with the John Terry incident.

It all started out with Evra complaining about Suárez, however with all the camera sky have got this hasn't been proven.

Terry was caught bang to rights and it will be interesting to see what comes of it.
The guy is no example for kids. Whether he should be fined is another thing.

A ban might be good for him as his form is terrible and he is close to getting dropped for club and country.

[d000hg]

Good luck with that defence in any court in the land.

In court a solicitor would show that the accused had black friends, etc, to demonstrate they didn't appear to be a racist just because they acted like a jackass in the heat of the moment.

[cailin maith]

The missus thinks the same. Why is reference to anglo saxon version of female naughty bits worse than male equivalent? Illogical captain.

Dunno - it just sounds awful and seems agressive and just generally vile.

Like I say no other swear word has that effect for me.

[xoggoth]

that word is just so vile

The missus thinks the same. Why is reference to anglo saxon version of female naughty bits worse than male equivalent? Illogical captain.

[shaunbhoy]

You can do something racist without being a racist. I can call someone a n***** to upset them without believing there's anything bad about being black. Being a racist is about believing racist thoughts, not saying racist things.

Good luck with that defence in any court in the land.

[Churchill]

My point is that if you're going to refer to a post, then you need to quote that post

The joke from SimonMac's post seems to have gone over the head somewhat.

Joke? Aren't they supposed to be funny?

[TheFaQQer]

I don't like the word and it offends me hearing it, but in the context of the story its hard to to mention the C word as its the football team he play's for.

I know it's just seeing it written and not starred out.

I think you'll find that CM was referring to DoggyStyles' post.

What's your point?

My point is that if you're going to refer to a post, then you need to quote that post

The joke from SimonMac's post seems to have gone over the head somewhat.

[Churchill]

I don't know about "blind c***", but as I understand it when queried by an opponent Terry then said "I didn't call him a black c***, you knobhead."

Anton originally said he didn't hear it anyway.

Sorry about the c-word everybody, but I was crudely making the point was that calling someone 'black' these days seems to be worse than calling them a c***, which no-one seems bothered about.

I know it's just seeing it written and not starred out.

But I get what Doggy was meaning about it being seemingly less offensive than calling someone black.

Wooooosh!

I think you'll find that CM was referring to DoggyStyles' post.

What's your point?

[TheFaQQer]

I know it's just seeing it written and not starred out.

But I get what Doggy was meaning about it being seemingly less offensive than calling someone black.

Wooooosh!

[cailin maith]

I don't like the word and it offends me hearing it, but in the context of the story its hard to to mention the C word as its the football team he play's for.

I know it's just seeing it written and not starred out.

But I get what Doggy was meaning about it being seemingly less offensive than calling someone black.

[d000hg]

Then I think we disagree about what makes someone a racist. Call him an arsehole, call him a c**t if you have to, but the N word is, by definition, a racist insult and someone who uses it is a racist.

I think a good rule of thumb is if the recipient considers it racist then it is.

You can do something racist without being a racist. I can call someone a n***** to upset them without believing there's anything bad about being black. Being a racist is about believing racist thoughts, not saying racist things.

The fact that you're an idiot is an objective opinion

That you think an opinion can BE objective is a good indicator that you are, in fact, the idiot.

[MaryPoppins]

As an aside, the term 'Bob' so regularly bandied about on this board is used in a derogatory sense, is also used to describe a group of people of the same race based upon a characteristic of that race - yet because it's used in a jocular manner is accepted and is not (I don't believe) used with racist connotations.

Completely agree. I would never use the term Bob, in the same way I'd never utter the N word

[SimonMac]

Can we not use the C word?

I don't like the word and it offends me hearing it, but in the context of the story its hard to to mention the C word as its the football team he play's for.