Are you worth your wage?

[Zippy]

I'm surprised because obviously a programme that would show us up to be money grabbing lazy barstewards who don't really deserve what we get and we should be paying astronimical high taxes will get high viewing ratings and massively boost the career of the producer, whereas a programme that breaks preconceptions will probably get sod all.

Nail. Head.

[BlasterBates]

I could imagine that a less than scrupulous TV producer would take a sentence like:

"I enjoy lazing around, but I hardly have anytime for that now I'm a freelancer, but one of the upsides of sacrificing my private life is the job satisfaction and driving around in my expensive BMW"

and edit to say

"I enjoy lazing around ...[cut to contractor driving in a BMW] and driving around in my expensive BMW"

But I'm sure that a producer wishing address to preconceptions wouldn't do anything like that, even though it would make good viewing.

[xoggoth]

Hmmm. My Android app earned £6 last week, so probably I am.

[EternalOptimist]

jeez. I can just see it now

Mr EO youse gets 400 a day for what exactly ?
camera closes in in EO handsome visage ' er , well today I normalised a table structure for a little app. wow it was a toughie'

camera pans to a haggard looking stressed out nurse

Mrs HLSON , what did you do today for your 75 quid
camera closes in and 'salt of the earth type' music plays
'well I saved three childrens lives, wiped sixteen old people bums, and gave hope to a seriously ill teenager who suffers from sasguru syndrome'

Voiceover - 'there we have it , you dont get paid what you are worth'

[original PM]

No one gets paid what they are worth

They get paid what they will work for

I knew a sh*t hot sales guy once who simply could not get a payrise - his manager said that if he did not like the wage he should not have accepted the job - so he left and that companies sales plummeted

as the saying goes you are only missed when you are gone.

[MarillionFan]

jeez. I can just see it now

Mr EO youse gets 400 a day for what exactly ?
camera closes in in EO handsome visage ' er , well today I normalised a table structure for a little app. wow it was a toughie'

camera pans to a haggard looking stressed out nurse

Mrs HLSON , what did you do today for your 75 quid
camera closes in and 'salt of the earth type' music plays
'well I saved three childrens lives, wiped sixteen old people bums, and gave hope to a seriously ill teenager who suffers from sasguru syndrome'

Voiceover - 'there we have it , you dont get paid what you are worth'

Exactly. The rest of us are charging £650 a day to normalise a table you mug.

[xoggoth]

If people can persuade others willingly to pay them then they are worth it. Subjective criteria, stuff about hard working nurses etc, make no sense.

[ChimpMaster]

Honestly I do not do any of that. I get paid well because I can easily work on something the average grunt off the street would take decades to understand.

As Souness said "this is not pressure, not being able to feed your kids is pressure"

How right are you! Honestly to damn f***ing God, this is the point that people fail to understand time and again. It is the intelligence to learn something in incredible detail and apply it to any given problem or situation in order to resolve an issue or build a solution, which sets the successful apart from the others. And that does not always take hard work and graft, though of course it might, but more often it requires ability and capability, a modicum of effort and lot of talent and intelligence.

You can't compare us to plumbers or mechanics, who might charge £50/hour to fix your leaking toilet/gasket. Our game is different, this game is about co-ordinating multiple teams to achieve a single goal, to link multiple corporate applications and technologies to facilitate business flows enabling a business to operate, to make the organisation successful without anyone knowing that we ever existed. It's not about the hammer, it's about using that extra tiny % of your brain that 99% of the population doesn't.

And you know what pisses everyone off - is that we make it look damn easy.

[MarillionFan]

And you know what pisses everyone off - is that we make it look damn easy.

Damn right brother!

[mudskipper]

How right are you! Honestly to damn f***ing God, this is the point that people fail to understand time and again. It is the intelligence to learn something in incredible detail and apply it to any given problem or situation in order to resolve an issue or build a solution, which sets the successful apart from the others. And that does not always take hard work and graft, though of course it might, but more often it requires ability and capability, a modicum of effort and lot of talent and intelligence.

You can't compare us to plumbers or mechanics, who might charge £50/hour to fix your leaking toilet/gasket. Our game is different, this game is about co-ordinating multiple teams to achieve a single goal, to link multiple corporate applications and technologies to facilitate business flows enabling a business to operate, to make the organisation successful without anyone knowing that we ever existed. It's not about the hammer, it's about using that extra tiny % of your brain that 99% of the population doesn't.

And you know what pisses everyone off - is that we make it look damn easy.

Which is true - the 'worth' is how many people can (or will) do the job.

Most of us are where we are because of the gifts that god/nature gave us - i.e. the right sort of intelligence to analyse and solve problems. Nice to have, but not something we can overly influence, just as a supermodel can't influence height / bone structure etc. Every day I'm damned grateful that I can do what I do. The truth is that a lot more people can be nurses than DBAs or supermodels or coders. Supply and demand innit.