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    A tax by any other name

    So the big stinky evil sons of satan from America wont pay the congestion charge because they consider it a tax...well...seems everyone else KNOWS its a tax except for the council.

    According to the council its not a tax BUT a payment for service, just what this service is hasnt quite been made clear yet?

    Hope those evil sons of dawgs dont pay up and make Ken a bit more excitable!

    Mailman

    #2
    Originally posted by Mailman
    So the big stinky evil sons of satan from America wont pay the congestion charge because they consider it a tax...well...seems everyone else KNOWS its a tax except for the council.

    According to the council its not a tax BUT a payment for service, just what this service is hasnt quite been made clear yet?

    Hope those evil sons of dawgs dont pay up and make Ken a bit more excitable!

    Mailman
    Do they also insist on getting into car parks for free?

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      #3
      Originally posted by expat
      Do they also insist on getting into car parks for free?
      No, because that clearly isn't a tax.

      Sweden has just introduced a CC in Stockholm. Their legislation explicitly states that it is a tax so their diplomats don't have to pay it.

      tim

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        #4
        Originally posted by tim123
        No, because that clearly isn't a tax.

        Sweden has just introduced a CC in Stockholm. Their legislation explicitly states that it is a tax so their diplomats don't have to pay it.

        tim
        OK, but if they had a barrier on entry to London and you had to take a ticket or put in your Visa card, just like a car park, would they insist on having the barrier opened for free?

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          #5
          Originally posted by expat
          OK, but if they had a barrier on entry to London and you had to take a ticket or put in your Visa card, just like a car park, would they insist on having the barrier opened for free?
          No because in this instance you are providing a service (the space to put your car).

          The CC was ostensibly to pay for improvements in public transport through increased subsidies from the assembly - although like most socialist ideas it seems to be pay now - jam tomorrow

          (and I still hate the bendy-buses contrary to the poll published a few days ago)

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            #6
            Originally posted by zathras
            No because in this instance you are providing a service (the space to put your car).
            Pardon me for being stupid, but does that mean that if you pay at a barrier it's a payment for a service, but if you're asked to pay of your own accord for the same thing or face a penalty, it's a tax?

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              #7
              Regardless there is feck all Red Ken can do to force them capatalist sons of satans from America to pay up...and good for them!

              The CC is a tax...everyone knows its a tax...if it smells like, makes a sound like and looks like a tax then its most likely a charge for a service

              Mailman

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                #8
                Originally posted by zathras
                (and I still hate the bendy-buses contrary to the poll published a few days ago)
                What's the problem with the bendy bus?

                apart from all the ticket cheats boarding at the back, looking around for the Revenue Inspector, pretending to Oyster.

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                  #9
                  Nah, it's a contribution.

                  Originally posted by Mailman
                  Regardless there is feck all Red Ken can do to force them capatalist sons of satans from America to pay up...and good for them!

                  The CC is a tax...everyone knows its a tax...if it smells like, makes a sound like and looks like a tax then its most likely a charge for a service

                  Mailman
                  cuckoo, cuckoo
                  Why not?

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                    #10
                    I am with the US Embassy on this one - CC charge is certainly a tax - US embassy does not really have a choice as they have been located in the center of London for longer than Ken was mayor.

                    One question I have though is this - do they pay BBC tax, road tax etc?

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