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    #21
    It goes to Kens council, which is a government body.

    Mailman

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      #22
      What's wrong with bendy buses

      Originally posted by matey
      What's the problem with the bendy bus?

      apart from all the ticket cheats boarding at the back, looking around for the Revenue Inspector, pretending to Oyster.
      Let me see

      1. They have been placed on routes that it is not possible for them to get around. Thereby requiring a number of one way systems etc to allow them a route that avoids the tighter corners in London

      2. The Ticket cheats. It is impossible for the driver to see who has actually used their Oyster Card.

      3. Getting off and on is made more difficult because the same doors are used for both. Just like the tube it seems totally alien to some people that in order to fit more people on it would be a good idea if those who wanted to get off could do so.

      4. The total number of seats on routes where bendy buses have been introduced has gone down. For example to get home from the tube I can take the 26, 48, 242 or 149. Only the latter is a bendy bus. While on the first three I can usually get a seat. On the 149 the times I have could be counted on one hand.

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        #23
        Originally posted by zathras
        Let me see

        1. They have been placed on routes that it is not possible for them to get around. Thereby requiring a number of one way systems etc to allow them a route that avoids the tighter corners in London

        2. The Ticket cheats. It is impossible for the driver to see who has actually used their Oyster Card.

        3. Getting off and on is made more difficult because the same doors are used for both. Just like the tube it seems totally alien to some people that in order to fit more people on it would be a good idea if those who wanted to get off could do so.

        4. The total number of seats on routes where bendy buses have been introduced has gone down. For example to get home from the tube I can take the 26, 48, 242 or 149. Only the latter is a bendy bus. While on the first three I can usually get a seat. On the 149 the times I have could be counted on one hand.
        5. They are a danger to cyclists.

        6. They use more road space, block junctions and increase congestion.

        7. They are no good to the majority of disabled people (i.e. the ones who aren't in wheelchairs and now have to stand)

        8. They catch fire.
        Cats are evil.

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          #24
          Originally posted by zathras
          Let me see
          2. The Ticket cheats. It is impossible for the driver to see who has actually used their Oyster Card.
          Easily resolved through the simple expedient of having a ticket conductor on the bus!

          Actually...there was an interesting article in the well known social anthropology paper called the metro where someone had identified a direct link between the decline in social behaviour to the decline of groups that were used to ensure enforce the rules etc. Groups like bus conductors and park rangers were able to enforce certain "social" laws but now they have gone the way of the dodo these rules and laws are no longer enforced...hence the increase in anti-social behavour etc

          BUT I digress!

          Mailman

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            #25
            Originally posted by Mailman
            Easily resolved through the simple expedient of having a ticket conductor on the bus!
            Mailman
            Have you actually been on a bendy bus?

            It's packed to the gills with folks at the start and end of the office day. It's hard enough to actually get to the Oyster Card readers if your a passenger let alone have some poor sap trying to squeeze through and check people's cards on his reader.

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              #26
              Originally posted by zathras
              Have you actually been on a bendy bus?

              It's packed to the gills with folks at the start and end of the office day. It's hard enough to actually get to the Oyster Card readers if your a passenger let alone have some poor sap trying to squeeze through and check people's cards on his reader.
              Yeah but they managed this with even smaller buses in the past didnt they?

              Mailman

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                #27
                Originally posted by Mailman
                Yeah but they managed this with even smaller buses in the past didnt they?

                Mailman
                Then they did n't have to go through the equivelent of three floors packed to the gills with people, and because of the design it would take considerably longer for them to make it down the bus.

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                  #28
                  Well then lets pull these buses from the street!

                  BTW, my car got hit by one a couple weeks ago. So far the feckers havent replied to any of my insurance companies phone calls or letters for their insurance details!

                  Mailman

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Mailman
                    Well then lets pull these buses from the street!
                    Good idea. Lets bring back the Routemaster. Or the derivative that still runs on the 242/26/48/55 route.

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