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A quick question for all you mechanical engineers out there.

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    #11
    Originally posted by Sysman View Post
    Buzz. Repetition of "Process". Is it my turn now?

    On a serious note I know what Cojak is after, but don't know the official phrase. The building industry also has a specific phrase here (which is how they bill for changes to the original spec and actually make a profit on a contract won on a cut throat bid).
    Builders call it "extras"

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      #12
      Actually. Now I think about it.

      If it's outside the ITIL process(or a deviation from it), then we call it 'Common Sense'

      hth

      MF
      What happens in General, stays in General.
      You know what they say about assumptions!

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        #13
        Originally posted by cojak View Post
        In your Workbooks (I think) you put a note in your designs when something deviates from best practice/standard/whatever. The note states what you changed, why you changed it and the risk assessment.

        Is that note called a deviation note or notice?

        I have to do something similar for an ITIL process and I'd like to use the correct term.
        Originally posted by Sysman View Post
        Buzz. Repetition of "Process". Is it my turn now?

        On a serious note I know what Cojak is after, but don't know the official phrase. The building industry also has a specific phrase here (which is how they bill for changes to the original spec and actually make a profit on a contract won on a cut throat bid).
        In contract terms it's a Variance.

        Client wants a change that is out scope of the contract or spec so agree a cost with the supplier (usually extortionate) and it gets added to the contract as a Variance on the original contract.
        "Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Sysman View Post
          Buzz. Repetition of "Process". Is it my turn now?

          On a serious note I know what Cojak is after, but don't know the official phrase. The building industry also has a specific phrase here (which is how they bill for changes to the original spec and actually make a profit on a contract won on a cut throat bid).
          Buzz. Repetition of "phrase"
          How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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            #15
            In aero engineering it's called a Process Deviation.
            But I discovered nothing else but depraved, excessive superstition. Pliny the younger

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              #16
              Originally posted by zharrt View Post
              As ITIL is only a framework rather than hard and fast rules, isn't some deviation expected?
              You'ed think that wouldn't you? Sadly, I've just had to explain that very point to a Change Manager.

              Their comment: ".... it will be a deviation from ITIL V3 guidelines"
              "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
              - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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                #17
                Thanks chaps (and you too zharrt )
                "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
                - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by cojak View Post
                  You'ed think that wouldn't you? Sadly, I've just had to explain that very point to a Change Manager.

                  Their comment: ".... it will be a deviation from ITIL V3 guidelines"
                  Let me guess, this was someone who has been in the organisation for years and be given the title change manager because they used to do something similar before the Org introduced ITIL?
                  Insert Witty Signature Here

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                    #19
                    The word you are looking for is "deviation"
                    Vote Corbyn ! Save this country !

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by fullyautomatix View Post
                      The word you are looking for is "deviation"
                      WHS^

                      On engineering drawings you have RFD's (requests for deviation). The manufacturer or customer will submit a case for the change and the authority that approves this will sign the change and this will be noted on a table of RFD's with a new version number.

                      I used to make helicopters from drawings.
                      Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired. - Cave Johnson

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