Anyone voting in the AV referendum?

[Alf W]

It's a token referendum to appease the Lib Dems. It'll be a massive 'No' vote and then they'll have to do what the Tories tell them until the next election.

Hardly worth getting the car out for.

[shaunbhoy]

Nobody died to protect my right NOT to vote.

The freedoms that were fought for implicitly include your right not to vote. It is not rocket science Archimedes!!!
However, on balance, and taking into account your showing in this thread, perhaps sas has a point. You may indeed be too thick to know what you are doing anyway.
Maybe stick to your abstract made-up deities and special friends. That appears to be your comfort zone.

[sasguru]

Well of course, I can see why the very notion of a system whereby 60% of the votes gets you 60% of the clout in policy-making might baffle a statto like you.
You are presumably in favour of retaining a system in which getting less than 40% of the votes can get you a sizeable enough majority to vote through lazy, party-driven, and often targeted and vindictive policy. Policy that generally gets reversed by the following government in very expensive style.
There is a reason why your mind works that way sasguru. It has to do with your IQ being less than 3/5 of the square root of fook-all. Right up there with your charisma count!

So why did Thatcher acknowledge that with PR she wouldn't have been able to do what she did because she'd have to compromise with one or more smaller parties?
The problems with pea-brains like you is you don't see beyond the obvious.
One practical outcome of PR is the Tories would never again be given carte blanche to reverse the excesses of the left.
PR may work in more sensible countires where consensus rules but would be a disaster here.

HTH but IDI as YTT

[shaunbhoy]

One practical outcome of PR is the Tories would never again be given carte blanche to reverse the excesses of the left.

It has patently escaped your razorlike detective skills that with PR, there would be no leftie excesses to reverse.

Classic fail sg....................no change there then!!

[sasguru]

For those with slightly more than SB's gnat-like IQ and child-like ignorance here's a good case against PR:

An Argument against Proportional Representation

[d000hg]

The freedoms that were fought for implicitly include your right not to vote

Do they? Australia fought in some of the same wars as us but has compulsory voting.

Where exactly is the right not to vote discussed? Just saying it's so over and over doesn't actually strengthen your argument.

[shaunbhoy]

For those with slightly more than SB's gnat-like IQ and child-like ignorance here's a good case against PR:

An Argument against Proportional Representation

Says the man who quoted "Thatcher" as some sort of champion of democratic plausibility.

[sasguru]

It has patently escaped your razorlike detective skills that with PR, there would be no leftie excesses to reverse.

Classic fail sg....................no change there then!!

If you'd like to talk about excess, Hitler got to power under PR.
God you really are incredibly stupid, aren't you? It's not just an act.
HTH

[shaunbhoy]

Were they? Australia fought in some of the same wars as us but has compulsory voting.

I know this is going to be difficult for you but take a look around you....................are you in Australia or not? I'll allow you 2 guesses!

[d000hg]

1)How do you know the majority will always be leftish?
2)Other countries have such systems and are less screwed by their governments than the UK

1) Because people are thick
2) like which ones?

1)Hmm, aren't most Americans on the right (slightly)? They are just as thick but are also more capitalistic.

2)Germany? Sweden? Australia?

Sas, still waiting your answers to this.