Just got a Windows 7 phone

[Spacecadet]

Has it been released ??

out today apparently

I'm only 2 months into owning a HD2 so will be interested in seeing how windows 7 mobile pans out... and if someone at XDA developers can generate a win7 ROM for mine

[Spacecadet]

Does it get slower and slower the more you use it, eventually getting you to download an update which kills it?

Usually any slowness associated with windows is down to users installing 1001 crap applications which are constantly running in the background

[RichardCranium]

Usually any slowness associated with windows is down to windows constantly running in the background

FTFY, Mr Gates.

[administrator]

Think I need an xbox to get the most out of it

What made you want this over a droid or iphone?

[d000hg]

Yes it's true.

But performance remains.

My W7 PC runs very nicely, and was a bargain-basement £300 job.

Are Apple computers called PCs too these days? Blimey I'd have thought IBM lawyers would have thrown their teddy out of their pram if Apple tried that.

I hope you're being sarcastic rather than stupid.

Usually any slowness associated with windows is down to users installing 1001 crap applications which are constantly running in the background

They have locked down what non-official apps can do on the phone (like iPhone) so we'll see... but I thought they fixed this on Vista/W7 anyway?

[Spacecadet]

They have locked down what non-official apps can do on the phone (like iPhone) so we'll see... but I thought they fixed this on Vista/W7 anyway?

I spent 5 minutes watching a mates laptop boot up over the weekend. His task tray had so many icons in it that it took up have the screen width.
I decided to bite my tongue, I really didn't want to spend an hour sorting it out for him.

[dang65]

<phone rings with annoying Windows mobile ring tone>

<Jog On looks at screen>

Screen says: "Incoming Call"

<Jog On presses answer button>

Screen says: "WARNING: before answering this call you must download critical hotfix KB324871 (256MB ~ 10 mins to download). Ok to download?"

Apple version...

Screen says: "WARNING: before answering this call you must log in to iTunes and download the amazing iPhoneAnswer App™ (£3.79). Ok to proceed to the App Store? Or do you want to finish playing with the fantastic Bubble Wrap Popping App™ (£3.79) first? To answer that question, please go to iTunes and download the superb iQuestionAnswers App™ (£3.79) first. Thanks." (£3.79)

[NickFitz]

How do you take calls on it? Do you have to swipe it three times, shake it, then download an app?

Or is it just a matter of downloading 256Mb of Windows Updates before you can use it?

Pretty stupid 'witty comment'. Apple PCs download just as many updates as Windows ones.

Yes it's true.

But performance remains.

Indeed. As I run Windows on my Mac in Parallels VMs which I create by making a copy of an original image of an installation of XP SP2 (which I throw away once I'm done with them), I regularly go through the following process:

• Boot default MS-configured XP SP2 for the first time; takes ten to fifteen seconds, and can be used immediately (as in, I can click on the Start menu and launch applications).
  
  
• Install SP3 and all the other pending updates.
  
  
• Boot time increases to about a minute. After the desktop has appeared, it usually takes another twenty or so seconds before the Start menu is sufficiently responsive to allow an application to be launched. (One of its favourite tricks is to ignore a click on the Start menu, so you click it again; after ten seconds it shows the Start menu in response to the first click, then hides it again in response to the second. This is annoying. Especially as clicking on the Start menu immediately after it's done that still doesn't show the menu again for another ten seconds.)

That's without installing any applications whatsoever: pure Microsoft code, Redmond born-and-bred. I also observe this behaviour on those occasions when I'm forced to use Windows on physical, as opposed to virtual, machines.

I have never encountered a detrimental effect on performance when installing an OS X update. Also, OS X doesn't download "just as many" updates - maybe 20% or fewer of the number that Windows downloads.

[NickFitz]

Apple version...

Screen says: "Swipe to answer". User swipes. Call is answered.

FTFY

[d000hg]

Nick why are you comparing modern Mac OS, presumably (Snow-)Leopard with a decade-old version of XP. That's hardly appropriate, those are different generations. I won't ask about Vista but how about W7?

Although, we've observed the same issue with XP too. I hadn't realised SP3 specifically might be the culprit, is there anything specific? I thought SP3 was simply a bunch of security patches, unlike SP2's major changes.

FTFY

If we are going to talk about older versions, iPhone is not simply swipe to answer... more like swipe, wait a second or two, on the iPhone 3. Same to hang up... it's slooow. Hardly an Apple-specific problem, but I am amazed anyone would consider a phone as releasable if the UI isn't instant, just like how phones used to work