Split from Welcome FAQ thread - Is there a God? Discuss

[d000hg]

By the way, where did the original thread go?

[doodab]

And you wouldn't find that slightly suspicious in itself

Well, no, actually. Why would I?

[d000hg]

Well, no, actually. Why would I?

The universe has only one possible way it could be, and that just happens to conspire the 1-in-a-trillion-trillion-trillion chance that random matter ends up chatting on CUK. And that's not amazing to you? I don't think you can reasonably go in that direction without invoking the infinite-universes idea, or you end up with a universe which is somehow self-directed and we're back to the question "why". IIRC Hawking (an atheist I think) has something to say on that, though I didn't read Brief History for about a decade. I think the multiverse theory is a bit of a cop-out personally but it does at least provide an answer.

[NickFitz]

The original thread was actually useful, the rest of it needed it's own space...

...and therefore the original thread has dropped out of sight, whilst this one continues to thrive

What calibre of idiot believes the world was made in 7 days then?

What calibre of idiot thinks anybody ever claimed that the world was made in 7 days? It was six days, and on the seventh day God rested (and probably spent some time wondering if he'd just made the biggest mistake of his career).

By the way, where did the original thread go?

See above

[SupremeSpod]

I wondered where you'd got to. Hate to pick you up on matters of fact since it's your not your strong suit, but...


I mean at least make the effort - the God card is easy pickings and even then you can't avoid getting it wrong.

Personally I believe that you being a twat has f**k all to do with the presence of a supreme being.

[d000hg]

Personally I believe that you being a twat has f**k all to do with the presence of a supreme being.

Aww, little spud's feeling left out of the conversation.

[SupremeSpod]

Aww, little spud's feeling left out of the conversation.

Not at all. Had a busy weekend and now I'm catching up on your hypocrisy.

[MarillionFan]

Not at all. Had a busy weekend and now I'm catching up on your hypocrisy.

Nothing hypocritical. You either believe in Zod or not!

[doodab]

The universe has only one possible way it could be, and that just happens to conspire the 1-in-a-trillion-trillion-trillion chance that random matter ends up chatting on CUK. And that's not amazing to you? I don't think you can reasonably go in that direction without invoking the infinite-universes idea, or you end up with a universe which is somehow self-directed and we're back to the question "why". IIRC Hawking (an atheist I think) has something to say on that, though I didn't read Brief History for about a decade. I think the multiverse theory is a bit of a cop-out personally but it does at least provide an answer.

But it isn't a one in trillion trillion trillion chance. It's absolutely inevitable. You don't need infinite universes, you just need to accept that things that are possible occur and things that aren't possible don't.

I think it's absolutely amazing. I marvel at it as much as anyone who attributes it to an omnipotent designer.

[MarillionFan]

But it isn't a one in trillion trillion trillion chance. It's absolutely inevitable. You don't need infinite universes, you just need to accept that things that are possible occur and things that aren't possible don't.

I think it's absolutely amazing. I marvel at it as much as anyone who attributes it to an omnipotent designer.

Look it's all fairly easy when you look at it on the basis of mathematics. The argument of 'How did it all start', 'Or how can something exist from nothing' is all mathematics.

At it's most basic 0 (nothing ) = 1 + -1. Effectively you can model, and statistically calculate everything. Everything is possible, regardless of how remotely infeasible it is.