Split from Welcome FAQ thread - Is there a God? Discuss

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Just passing through, only skimmed this last page so will return...

That Dawkins chap just sounds like a right whinging arsehole who needs a good kick in the stones.

The big difference is that Dawkins is only talking, not imposing. Compare that to recent pronouncements by Catholics and others, they want to impose.

Make no mistake, Dawkin's life's work, bordering on obsession, is to impose his beliefs on the world. You can practically see him foaming at the mouth when he talks about religion. I'm certain that in common with many religious people, he would love to see his views shape the world for "our own good". He's a perfect example of a fanatical, evangelical atheist - the guy who would randomly change the subject to the evil of religion at a party and then harp on about it for an hour. And you could argue that because of his influence and celebrity, he is imposing in an indirect way.
I think he's an arrogant ego-maniac and thought the same when I was an atheist.

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Not really. I'm quite familiar with, and understand Cantor and Gödel's work.

The naïve concept of infinity is that given an infinite number of universes, anything that can happen, must happen. Mathematically, this isn't the case.

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Can any of the scientitst and mathematicians on this thread step me throught proof that there is no God?

[d000hg]

I thought we were discussing matters of faith.

I have assumed as you appear to be defending the idea of god against the atheists that you are a believer in god. Apologies if this is not the case.

I do believe in God but I was quite enjoying our more scientific/philosophical side-chat, about whether a single universe following the (string) anthropic principle is rational from a scientific point of view, or a big cop-out.

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Can any of the scientitst and mathematicians on this thread step me throught proof that there is no God?

Or that there is one?

[minestrone]

Or that there is one?

Well I have a degree in maths so that is one. But I am asking for proof that there is no God.

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Well I have a degree in maths so that is one. But I am asking for proof that there is no God.

and I for proof there is one

[minestrone]

and I for proof there is one

If the Scientific community is going to argue that God does not exist ( that is the whole point of this campaign ) then it really has to back up it's claim by scientific proof.

Until it does so then the claim really is down to their belief which really holds no great sway arguing against a culture of belief.

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If the Scientific community is going to argue that God does not exist ( that is the whole point of this campaign ) then it really has to back up it's claim by scientific proof.

Until it does so then the claim really is down to their belief which really holds no great sway arguing against a culture of belief.

Well a degree in Maths you should have some understanding of probability. Anyway, here's some suggestive proof (its OK, I know its not scientific):

[d000hg]

Sas, is there any guide to when you're being serious or not? A twitch of the left nostril, perhaps...