Ground Zero mosque

[lilelvis2000]

That's EXACTLY the point. Building a victory mosque in GZ is adding insult to injury.

The followers of Prophet Mohammad (piss be upon him) not only kill us. They now want to teach us tolerance, LOL.

So if they want to build bridges, promote understanding, blah blah blah, build then the mosque in Riyadh or Mecca, not NYC.

You need help. serious help. Perhaps you forgot your Prozac this morning.

[Old Greg]

You need help. serious help. Perhaps you forgot your Prozac this morning.

Don't worry. He thinks he's shouting at us but really he's shouting at himself. It's better for him to have an outlet in the virtual world than to be wandeing the streets. We're doing a service to society.

[xoggoth]

[saudis] are theocratic maniacs, and not role models for decent societies

Certainly the worst, true, but some others are hardly much better. Malaysia? If you are a non Muslim you are ok unless you are in a conflict with a Muslim. If you married one and want custody of the kids, even though you may be the more suitable parent, forget it. That is what moderation and tolerance in many Islamic countries is about, you are fine as long as you practice your own views very quietly and don't expect completely equal treatment under the law.

Try reading any defence of Islamic tolerance by a prominent Muslim writer. It isn't what most of us would mean by it, complete freedom to choose your own faith, run your own private life and have the same rights as anyone else. It most certainly is not what they demand from us.

[Old Greg]

Certainly the worst, true, but some others are hardly much better. Malaysia? If you are a non Muslim you are ok unless you are in a conflict with a Muslim. If you married one and want custody of the kids, even though you may be the more suitable parent, forget it. That is what moderation and tolerance in many Islamic countries is about, you are fine as long as you practice your own views very quietly and don't expect completely equal treatment under the law.

Try reading any defence of Islamic tolerance by a prominent Muslim writer. It isn't what most of us would mean by it, complete freedom to choose your own faith, run your own private life and have the same rights as anyone else. It most certainly is not what they demand from us.

Malaysia is certainly not a liberal democracy, but in terms of tolerance for religious diversity is pretty good for a developing country.

Don't get me wrong, I have no more (or less) time for Islam than I do for any other religion, but singling them out leads down an unpleasant path to destination unknown.

[markinbrussels]

Don't worry. He thinks he's shouting at us but really he's shouting at himself. It's better for him to have an outlet in the virtual world than to be wandeing the streets. We're doing a service to society.

It's a pity the left-wing appeasers can't learn a damn thing.

"British government policy towards Hitler, at the time, was one of appeasement -- later viewed as a policy of peace at any price, even at the expense of supposed allies and treaty commitments. Churchill's warnings earned him only ridicule and a reputation as a paranoid warmonger."

[Old Greg]

It's a pity the left-wing appeasers can't learn a damn thing.

"British government policy towards Hitler, at the time, was one of appeasement -- later viewed as a policy of peace at any price, even at the expense of supposed allies and treaty commitments. Churchill's warnings earned him only ridicule and a reputation as a paranoid warmonger."

We have an historian amongst us!

[Spacecadet]

It's a pity the left-wing appeasers can't learn a damn thing.

"British government policy towards Hitler, at the time, was one of appeasement -- later viewed as a policy of peace at any price, even at the expense of supposed allies and treaty commitments. Churchill's warnings earned him only ridicule and a reputation as a paranoid warmonger."

I noticed you stopped short of calling anyone hitler or a nazi and thus invoking godwins law

[doodab]

It's a pity the left-wing appeasers can't learn a damn thing.

"British government policy towards Hitler, at the time, was one of appeasement -- later viewed as a policy of peace at any price, even at the expense of supposed allies and treaty commitments. Churchill's warnings earned him only ridicule and a reputation as a paranoid warmonger."

I think at least some modern historians acknowledge that appeasement bought us time to prepare without which we would have been totally ****ed.

[Mich the Tester]

It's a pity the left-wing appeasers can't learn a damn thing.

Is anybody who holds more nuanced opinions on Islam than your own automatically 'left winged'?

[lilelvis2000]

It's a pity the left-wing appeasers can't learn a damn thing.

"British government policy towards Hitler, at the time, was one of appeasement -- later viewed as a policy of peace at any price, even at the expense of supposed allies and treaty commitments. Churchill's warnings earned him only ridicule and a reputation as a paranoid warmonger."

So basically your job is to hit all the forums and message boards and newspaper comment boards you troll with copy and pasted statements from Nick G? Brill. How do I get that job? Or better, how does a single mother on benefits get that job!