Abolish-ICTs - epetition response

[mudskipper]

So when a company outsources an IT function to an offshore company, and the offshore company flies in a dozen guys and gals as an onshore team, is this still ICT? Or does this come under some other banner?

[minestrone]

So when a company outsources an IT function to an offshore company, and the offshore company flies in a dozen guys and gals as an onshore team, is this still ICT? Or does this come under some other banner?

That will be the ICTs

[AtW]

Move up the food chain or get eaten.

Vultures are well up in it

[HairyArsedBloke]

The less people there are in this country to pay tax, the more tax we all have to pay.

So, the answer is ......

Except, I'm stuck here at the moment. I've got several problems that stop me from returning to HAB Island.

I'm all up for the cheapest supplier rules, adapt or die, etc. However, what those numb skulls of nuLieBore have done has cause long-term damage to the country as a whole, not just to individuals.

[GreenerGrass]

You're all racists according to Labour!
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/159888

[Sysman]

Sminki

Summary:

Good news:

[quote]From the spring of 2010 companies will only be able to transfer staff through the ICT route where they employed the individual for at least 12 months, doubling the existing 6 month threshold and the route will no longer lead to permanent residence in the UK.

Bad news:

An additional route will be created to allow graduates on global graduate programmes to transfer to the UK for a period of no more than 12 months where they have three months experience of working for the company.

So straight out of college really...

[chef]

You're all racists according to Labour!
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/159888

a quote from the Daily Whail about being racist???

"Hello" said: Mr. Pot to Mr. Kettle, "you're black..."

[malvolio]

Why have the PCG never done anything with the information from the ictabuse website? It has been there for a year, I know I have sent them a couple of obviously dodgy jobs but they never even sent me an automated reply.

Some people on here should get a site going, start publishing replies from MPs on the subject.

They are. It takes time.

Also they have lots of people saying what's going on, but nothing written down that would work as evidence. It only needs one documented case to blow the whole thing wide open, but if anybody has that evidence they're not putting it forward. So as far as Whitehall is concerned, there isn't a problem to resolve.

So the mesage seems to be, you want to keep the industry alive, stand up and be counted.

[minestrone]

They are. It takes time.

Also they have lots of people saying what's going on, but nothing written down that would work as evidence. It only needs one documented case to blow the whole thing wide open, but if anybody has that evidence they're not putting it forward. So as far as Whitehall is concerned, there isn't a problem to resolve.

So the message seems to be, you want to keep the industry alive, stand up and be counted.

Nonsense, they have been at it for a year, they must have had thousands and thousands of jobs reported through that site. The most the PCG have done on this is set up a website which we have no evidence actually gets maintained and appeared on radio Scotland once. It is a pretty damning record campaigning on a major issue and with that in mind they are obviously not up to the job, more interested in picking up a salary.

How much did they spend on that Times ad last week? Seriously? They could have used that money effectively but decide to spunk it on a page 60 ad telling everyone how great they are.

Miserable, totally miserable is how I would describe the PCG response to this.

[malvolio]

Nonsense, they have been at it for a year, they must have had thousands and thousands of jobs reported through that site. The most the PCG have done on this is set up a website which we have no evidence actually gets maintained and appeared on radio Scotland once. It is a pretty damning record campaigning on a major issue and with that in mind they are obviously not up to the job, more interested in picking up a salary.

How much did they spend on that Times ad last week? Seriously? They could have used that money effectively but decide to spunk it on a page 60 ad telling everyone how great they are.

Miserable, totally miserable is how I would describe the PCG response to this.

Wrong. they have thousands of shouty emails from people saying it's going on. They have nothing they can put on a table that will convince the authorities that abuse is taking place - i.e. documentary evidence on rates, conditions, allowances, contractor replacement programmes, whatever. It only takes one case.

So grow up and read what I said properly. "'Cos I said so" isn't going to get us anywhere.