Abolish-ICTs - epetition response

[minestrone]

Wrong. they have thousands of shouty emails from people saying it's going on. They have nothing they can put on a table that will convince the authorities that abuse is taking place - i.e. documentary evidence on rates, conditions, allowances, contractor replacement programmes, whatever. It only takes one case.

So grow up and read what I said properly. "'Cos I said so" isn't going to get us anywhere.

Well why are they asking for people to write in and declare jobs? If that is not going to be of any use whay are they asking people to do it?

There is the moral principle that they should be running with just now, how companies are importing staff from outside our economic zone while that is not reciprocated.

"Grow up"? that has been typical of your attitude to this all along "you don't understand what we are doing" "it takes time". Bollocks, a few hundred power station workers showed you how it is done. You will never find one piece of evidence that blows this out the water, they will just claim it is an isolated case.

So again, how many times has the PCG been in the media since last year discussing this subject? And then tell me if you think that is enough?

You and your pathetic little mob of new labour lickspittle are nothing more than useless and your answer to the above questions will prove that if you do care to address them.

[malvolio]

What they need is very clearly laid out on the www.ictabuse.org.uk website's front page. When they get it, they will use it. If they don't get it, they can't. How hard is that to understand?

They've also been to the Press, but it's not a big enough story for the press to use, they prefer Jordan's latest toy boy. Go figure.

[HairyArsedBloke]

They are. It takes time.

WHAT!
THEY HAVE HAD
TEN YEARS
TO DO SOMETHING
FOR FRACK SAKE

The PCG have betrayed us all. There has been plenty of things they could have done. ICT should have been challenged in the courts in the UK and EU. They are a contraint on trade. It is hidden susbsidies to companies. It is hidden third word aid. That's three things off the top of my head.

[minestrone]

What they need is very clearly laid out on the www.ictabuse.org.uk website's front page. When they get it, they will use it. If they don't get it, they can't. How hard is that to understand?

They've also been to the Press, but it's not a big enough story for the press to use, they prefer Jordan's latest toy boy. Go figure.

Bollocks, the power station workers got prime time for a week over a few hundred workers, we are talking tens of thousands of ICTs and the PCG cannot even get passed radio Scotland.

The board of directors of the PCG have been outdone by a few grease monkeys in rigger boots. As long as Uncle Chris gets his pay check then he is happy.

can I ask has nayone on this board who sent in a suspect job to ictabuse ever got anything back? A written reply? an automated reply? A reference number? any reply? I doubt anyone has. Their management of this has been so poor I seriously do think that the PCG are complicit in keeping ICTs going.

I say again that a few people could organise a better campaign in a few weeks than what the PCG has done in a decade.

[minestrone]

And another point on the PCG promoting this, google gives the ictabuse web site a page rank of 1 out of 10. I have a website running a campaign to stop the council building homes on the local park and that gets 2 out of 10.

I am going to say that I have spent more time promoting a local campaign about a park than the PCG has promoting a campaign involving tens of thousands of workers. I can safely say I have not spent that much time promoting the site online.

Go Figure malvolio.

[TimberWolf]

...I seriously do think that the PCG are complicit in keeping ICTs going.

WHS.

[BoredBloke]

Move up the food chain or get eaten.

That's top end of the food chain is going to be feckin crowded!

[BoredBloke]

Thinking about this a bit more, what has IT done to Labour for them to hate IT so much? We're like Maggies Miners. First it was people comming in to undercut us contractors, but how long before the permies are effected in the same way? Which company is going to take on an IT permie at say 35k with all the other costs involved when TechM will supply one of thier chaps on 150 a day. All those tax reciepts they are gladly giving up - I assume TechM pays it's taxes to India.

[TimberWolf]

Thinking about this a bit more, what has IT done to Labour for them to hate IT so much? We're like Maggies Miners. First it was people comming in to undercut us contractors, but how long before the permies are effected in the same way? Which company is going to take on an IT permie at say 35k with all the other costs involved when TechM will supply one of thier chaps on 150 a day. All those tax reciepts they are gladly giving up - I assume TechM pays it's taxes to India.

Will the Tories be any different?

[Churchill]

Thinking about this a bit more, what has IT done to Labour for them to hate IT so much? We're like Maggies Miners. First it was people comming in to undercut us contractors, but how long before the permies are effected in the same way? Which company is going to take on an IT permie at say 35k with all the other costs involved when TechM will supply one of thier chaps on 150 a day. All those tax reciepts they are gladly giving up - I assume TechM pays it's taxes to India.

We're fairly affluent, Labour are a bunch of Champagne Socialists. I'd have a social conscience too if I had a couple of million squid in the bank.