FFS - how do I deal with this one

[SizeZero]

Some kids are good with their heads, some are good with their hands. It's a fact of life, no matter how much the politically correct people tell every child they have/be/do it all.

I have one on an aviation course (pre-degree) and the other is on a trade-skills course: the important thing is what holds their interest long enough for them to get a qualification (and hopefully a job) in it . If a lad can't cope with the thought sitting in an office with a load of 'suits' then there's no point pushing him into it and seeing him miserable.

Maybe the son-in-law's business isn't doing too well, and this is a round-the-houses way of telling you he can't afford to keep your son on much longer?

[EternalOptimist]

Some kids are good with their heads, some are good with their hands. It's a fact of life, no matter how much the politically correct people tell every child they have/be/do it all.

I have one on an aviation course (pre-degree) and the other is on a trade-skills course: the important thing is what holds their interest long enough for them to get a qualification (and hopefully a job) in it . If a lad can't cope with the thought sitting in an office with a load of 'suits' then there's no point pushing him into it and seeing him miserable.

Maybe the son-in-law's business isn't doing too well, and this is a round-the-houses way of telling you he can't afford to keep your son on much longer?

The son in law is doing ok. the lad is doing ok.

its my brother who is stirring things up

How do I tell him to fck off, without telling him to fck off ?

[Pondlife]

How do I tell him to fck off, without telling him to fck off ?

You just tell him to fck off. simples.

If the kid is happy, where's the problem?

Or you could explain to him how your industry actually works and show him what jobserve looks like - i.e. everything going offshore for entry level work that will kill the industry long term.

[alreadypacked]

Tell him IT is very degree centered these days, that's 4 years at Uni. before he could start at entry level. If he could find a role.

Is he offering to pay the 35k + costs?

[SallyAnne]

Does your son have any interest in IT EO?

have you ever sat with him and taught him anything? or do yous not have that kind of relationship?

I must admit, if I had a kid, I'd be teaching them this stuff from a very early age - it's such a great earner.

But if you haven't, that doesn't make you a bad dad. Unless you just ARE a bad dad, and your brother has watched you work away for years neglecting your family? I'd check with the wife that he hasn't been looking after her needs while you've been away too?

[DaveB]

If he' stuffed up his exams his chances of getting into IT now are pretty minimal. Even the entry level stuff, that hasnt been offshored, is asking for a relevent degree.

If he's happy doing what he is doing and is prepared to put some graft into it and learn a trade then he'll do just as well, if not better, than he would in IT in the long run.

Tell your brother to wind his neck in.

[Pondlife]

Does your son have any interest in IT EO?

have you ever sat with him and taught him anything? or do yous not have that kind of relationship?

I must admit, if I had a kid, I'd be teaching them this stuff from a very early age - it's such a great earner.

But if you haven't, that doesn't make you a bad dad. Unless you just ARE a bad dad, and your brother has watched you work away for years neglecting your family? I'd check with the wife that he hasn't been looking after her needs while you've been away too?

I don't know if that's a or a but I think I'll go with

[d000hg]

If he's not good at things like maths and science at school, being a software guy sounds a bad route. Just like some people can try hard but never really get a natural feel for plastering and always take ages to do a bad job (raises hand), others aren't cut out for IT type stuff. If your son is in that group he could maybe get a job in IT, but he's probably not going to raise fr up the ladder, nowhere near "megabucks".

EO are you actually a contractor or running a 'real' business? If the former tell your brother it's a business for tax reasons only, and you're basically an employee

[EternalOptimist]

Does your son have any interest in IT EO?

have you ever sat with him and taught him anything? or do yous not have that kind of relationship?

I must admit, if I had a kid, I'd be teaching them this stuff from a very early age - it's such a great earner.

But if you haven't, that doesn't make you a bad dad. Unless you just ARE a bad dad, and your brother has watched you work away for years neglecting your family? I'd check with the wife that he hasn't been looking after her needs while you've been away too?

Well he has an interest in the PS games, and probably other stuff, but only as a user. We get on very well, go camping a few times a year, I took him to Norway and Italy and to see Pink Floyd, so yeah, I teach him stuff and we get on fine.

My brother live on the other side of the country, so I dont think he has been porking the missus, but thanks for planting the seed

[cupidstunt]

My brother live on the other side of the country, so I dont think he has been porking the missus, but thanks for planting the seed

As long as he hasn't been you'll be fine