police service- ineffectual?

[contractor79]

Wow, how amazing that you have come up with a story about how you were wronged by the police, right after you outed yourself as a coward, with no sense of civic duty

think u r a bit harsh here, or just having a wind-up, unfortunately he would most likely be arrested for trying to stop it rather than given a medal. That's where this country is going so wrong.

[Cyberman]

think u r a bit harsh here, or just having a wind-up, unfortunately he would most likely be arrested for trying to stop it rather than given a medal. That's where this country is going so wrong.

Thanks ...... good reply !!!

[NickFitz]

.... and at the time I got arrested, I said to them 'why don't you spend your time arresting real criminals' and I told them the story about the chip shop. They proceeded to physically attack me and it took me a few days to recover from the damage to my neck from a headlock !! I wish that I could respect the police but I cannot for the above reasons and others that I may relate later.

Your stupidity is quite astonishing.

Like most people, the Police get annoyed if some clueless fsckwit who has no knowledge of their work tries to tell them how to do their job.

Given that they are legally entitled to carry weapons, use force to restrain people, and bring criminal proceedings, you have to be an absolute cretin to annoy them.

I have had many dealings with the Police over the years, both as a citizen trying to assist them in the business of detecting and preventing crime, and as a citizen whom they regarded as almost certainly a criminal and definitely fair game.

At Stonehenge and its environs around the time of the Summer Solstice in the mid-Eighties I approached both individual Police officers and lines of Police in riot gear. Frequently they were prepared, given the slightest excuse, to kick off. (And believe you me, in the middle of nowhere in Wiltshire at three o'clock in the morning, nobody can hear you scream.)

I treated them for what they were: people who happened to be doing a difficult job. I treated them with the courtesy and respect I would show to anybody. I had no respect for the politicians who had sent them there to confront us, and I had no respect for the particular role they were being asked to play in this confrontation. But I respected them as individuals, for that is what they are.

As a result, I was never arrested, never beaten with a long baton, and saw some who had been a bit previous in their attitudes look slightly ashamed of themselves for pre-judging me. A number of them even did me the odd favour, such as letting me know that their forces had withdrawn from a certain place, and I could therefore safely follow a route that would save me a five-mile walk.

But the one thing I never did - the one thing that I knew would lead with absolute certainty to a night in the cells, and probably a bloody hard beating - was to tell them how to do their job.

They don't like that. If you'd just spent - in fact if you'd ever spent - three hours helping to recover mangled bodies from a wrecked car, you would probably also be a bit sensitive about people telling you how you should be doing your job.

The Hitchhikers' Guide to Europe said it best: "You be nice to the Police, boys and girls, and they'll be nice to you."

[Board Game Geek]

Wise words NF.

It's all too easy to see the Police as a faceless organisation ; the anonymous shocktroops of a totalitarian regime.

But they are normal people like the rest of us, with families and loved ones to care for, and they have a job to do.

I know a great deal of them despise the fact that they are used as a political instrument, but that's not their fault.

That's the fault of the politicians and ultimately the people who voted for them in the first place.

I sometimes wonder if the radicalisation and politicalisation of the Police is to serve a deeper purpose.

By casting them in such a light, public ill-will is focussed on the Police instead of their masters. A public scapegoat if you will.

Put it another way...does anyone consider the Police truly apolitical ?

If not, then it follows that they are the instrument of someone's political will.

The question begs ; is that a healthy state to be in ?

The sad thing is, most of the general population don't particularly care about such things. So long as it doesn't interfere with their BB, Soaps, Footie, Booze and Fags.

It does make me wonder if the "dumbing-down" of Education is a deliberately socially-engineered concept in order to produce a more malleable, dependent and subservient population.

If that is so, then it demonstrates the true amount of contempt those in power really have over the rest of us.

Before some of us on the Board get too smug with ourselves, because our educational backgrounds may be higher than the norm, and we don't consider ourselves or our families in the same league as the untersmenchen, remember that regardless of our social, educational and political backgrounds, we are all "managed" one way or the other.

[EternalOptimist]

Wow, how amazing that you have come up with a story about how you were wronged by the police, right after you outed yourself as a coward, with no sense of civic duty

A coward ?
He may be a 4 foot six cyber cretin, and the thug might have been six foot six.
He might be a fish and chip eating wheelchair-bound cyber dicksplat.

It's not wise to always rush in to these situations even if you are able bodied and hard as nails.

so gob tulipe, yes,
coward, not proven

[cailin maith]

A coward ?
He may be a 4 foot six cyber cretin, and the thug might have been six foot six.
He might be a fish and chip eating wheelchair-bound cyber dicksplat.

It's not wise to always rush in to these situations even if you are able bodied and hard as nails.

so gob tulipe, yes,
coward, not proven

[BrilloPad]

He might be a fish and chip eating wheelchair-bound cyber dicksplat.

Are you having a go it the disabled?

[EternalOptimist]

Are you having a go it the disabled?

well, yes and no. in a way.

what I was trying to say is that it's extraordinarily difficult to perform the 'crouching tiger' kung fu killer move, if you are confined to a wheelchair

[BrilloPad]

well, yes and no. in a way.

what I was trying to say is that it's extraordinarily difficult to perform the 'crouching tiger' kung fu killer move, if you are confined to a wheelchair

Thats not very PC is it! Its your sort of attitude that denies the disabled equality.

[Spacecadet]

I think it's a sign of how this country has turned for the worst. People don't want to get involved, they don't care who gets hurt or what happens as long as they're nothing to do with it. That sense of duty seems to be long gone. Not just with the public but with the police also who seem to have a baffling array of lines to come out with to explain why nothing can be done.

My front teeth ended up broken after intervening a few years ago.
Luckily I got them capped so everything looks as normal now but I still can't face going back to the dentist.