police service- ineffectual?

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Whatever you say, although... I am not sure what proof you *think* you have.

You really are a nasty, nasty, bitter little man....

Tory

[EternalOptimist]

Thats not very PC is it! Its your sort of attitude that denies the disabled equality.

well if they dont like it, they can drop kick me, but I warn them - they will never get past my 'stooping stork' defence

[EternalOptimist]

My front teeth ended up broken after intervening a few years ago.
Luckily I got them capped so everything looks as normal now but I still can't face going back to the dentist.

I have told the story before, so apologies for boring but.

I once heard a girl screaming when I was on my way home from the pub in Liverpool. I went down a very dark alley to help, but I went cautiously. When I got close I could hear whispers and a quiet giggle. Then a 'go on do it again' followed by a blood curdling scream, followed by a giggle. I made a very quiet and unnoticed exit. Probably saved my teeth.

[threaded]

From the times I've spent in the UK I personally know of many examples where people have intervened with horrific results. Example: a fellow contractor, who probably reads this board, rescued a woman from an attacker. He was locked up for several days until the woman regained conciousness and identified the attacker as someone else, by which time the evidence for a succesful prosecution had gone as the Police had already decided who the 'guilty party' was.

If I see anything I just walk on by, and you lot, with all your forum bravado, ought to be ashamed of yourselves for egging people on.

Really, if you see anything, just take an alternate route. That way is safest. The Police make way too many mistakes. You'd be insane to get involved if you can otherwise avoid it.

You risk far more than you think by getting involved.

It's not cowardice. It can take a lot of inner strength sometimes to just walk on by. Remember you have your own family and reputation to protect too.

[cailin maith]

Nope, I still don't think I could stand idly by and watch someone get beaten up.

I understand the arguments about looking after yourself and keeping safe for the sake of your family and all the rest of it. Even walking away, I understand why you might do that.... but I don't think I could simply stand there and watch.

[EternalOptimist]

If I see anything I just walk on by, and you lot, with all your forum bravado, ought to be ashamed of yourselves for egging people on.

Really, if you see anything, just take an alternate route. That way is safest. The Police make way too many mistakes. You'd be insane to get involved if you can otherwise avoid it.

You risk far more than you think by getting involved.

It's not cowardice. It can take a lot of inner strength sometimes to just walk on by. Remember you have your own family and reputation to protect too.

I have gotten involved many times over the years, but, now that you come to mention it (I never though of this before) I would only do it if I could make it a quick 'in and out' without being i.d.'ed and certainly no contact with the plod.

[threaded]

Nope, I still don't think I could stand idly by and watch someone get beaten up.

I understand the arguments about looking after yourself and keeping safe for the sake of your family and all the rest of it. Even walking away, I understand why you might do that.... but I don't think I could simply stand there and watch.

No, do not stand and watch, that makes you, at best, a 'witness'. As a contractor you will lose at best a lot of billable time, normally your client may well terminate you for being unreliable, and they will not like having the police constantly turning up in the clients reception.

I would most certainly recommend getting away from the scene of any incident as quickly as possible, and if asked you didn't see anything. Do not under any circumstances profer anything but the absolute minimum of information.

[contractor79]

the mere fact that people have to get involved or not shows just how shameful our society has become and so fearless of the police that these scumbags decide to attack women in public in the first place
but it's our fault for voting in liberal dimwits and becoming part of the eu

[TheBigD]

I'm astounded someone could stand back and watch others getting beaten up. I thing its a disgrace that the "witness" didn't even try to stop what happened.

Mods, we need a head shaking smilie...

I think that's a little harsh. I'd like to think I'd intervene if I witnissed a scenario such as this, but I don't think anyone really knows what they'd do unless they were in that position.

The police don't seem to give a monkey's about any dealing with anything that does't improve the look of their stastics. If you were to wade in and help someone out who was getting a beating, and ended up getting a good hiding for your trouble, the police wouldn't lift a finger to bring the thug to justice.

Not a slur on the run-of-the-mill bobby, I think they would like to be able to bang up most of these types of people, but as with all large public sector organizations, they're being dictated to by layer upon layer of managment who's job depends on looking good, not doing good.

[Cyberman]

Nope, I still don't think I could stand idly by and watch someone get beaten up.

I understand the arguments about looking after yourself and keeping safe for the sake of your family and all the rest of it. Even walking away, I understand why you might do that.... but I don't think I could simply stand there and watch.

Yes, of course, being a powerful woman you would intervene. Wait until you get in the situation and you may feel differently. Many people like yourself are strong with rhetoric until it comes to the crunch.