Life in prison !!

[The Lone Gunman]

I read that in a separate report in the printed media about a year ago. It mentioned new legislation that Tony Blair had implemented to reduce sentences for murderers.

If a prisoner receives a minimum sentence of 10 years, it does not take much to calculate that if he behaves himself, then he could serve only 5 years with the 50% allowance, and the constant political pressure to empty prisons. 15 years = 7.5 and so on.

But very very few get 10 years. They almost have to go straight to the police after the event and own up to get that kind of reduction.

Rules of this board: No linky means not true. Saying you read it somewhere does not count.

[The Lone Gunman]

The real eye-opener though is that ACTUAL sentence SERVED under the Tories and up to 2000 was 13 years !! See chapter 5 of the document below.

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdf...nstats2000.pdf

Life should mean LIFE !!!

Then no one would ever get a life sentence.

[NickFitz]

"Mulenga was told he must serve a minimum of 28 years in prison for the attack in July 2007."

Wrong again, Cyberman

[The Lone Gunman]

"Mulenga was told he must serve a minimum of 28 years in prison for the attack in July 2007."

Wrong again, Cyberman

I think that will get appealed down to about 18. It shouldn't but it will.

[NickFitz]

If a prisoner receives a minimum sentence of 10 years, it does not take much to calculate that if he behaves himself, then he could serve only 5 years with the 50% allowance, and the constant political pressure to empty prisons. 15 years = 7.5 and so on.

The 50% reduction doesn't apply to minimum periods of incarceration specified when handing down a life sentence, only to fixed terms of imprisonment.

The minimum term specified for a lifer dictates the first time that he or she can apply to be released on licence, although there is no guarantee that they will be granted it.

[Cyberman]

The 50% reduction doesn't apply to minimum periods of incarceration specified when handing down a life sentence, only to fixed terms of imprisonment.

The minimum term specified for a lifer dictates the first time that he or she can apply to be released on licence, although there is no guarantee that they will be granted it.

Whichever way you look at it, under the current government, prisoners serve many years less than the 13 years that they actually served in 1997. That is a scandal.

Unfortunately, there does not appear to be another report similar to that that I linked to earlier. I wonder why!!??

[NotAllThere]

The real eye-opener though is that ACTUAL sentence SERVED under the Tories and up to 2000 was 13 years !! See chapter 5 of the document below.

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdf...nstats2000.pdf

Life should mean LIFE !!!

Life should mean death. Much cheaper.

[Cyberman]

Life should mean death. Much cheaper.

If life does not mean serving a life sentence, then I would like to see lethal injection for premeditated murder.

Over 80 people have actually been murdered by paroled murderers.

[The Lone Gunman]

Over 80 people have actually been murdered by paroled murderers.

Whoa there! Are you sure about that? Can you quantify those murders.

It is well known that murder is one of the least likely repeat offences as the murder is itself usually caused by a very specific set of circumstances and usually includes the victim. It is very rare for those circumstances to happen again.
Certainly there have been some well publicised cases of people with mental problems killing again, but that is a mental health issue. I am sure there have been a number of gangland killers also but they do not randomly kill members of the public.

[Old Greg]

I read that in a separate report in the printed media about a year ago. It mentioned new legislation that Tony Blair had implemented to reduce sentences for murderers.

If a prisoner receives a minimum sentence of 10 years, it does not take much to calculate that if he behaves himself, then he could serve only 5 years with the 50% allowance, and the constant political pressure to empty prisons. 15 years = 7.5 and so on.

So you made it up then, to fit in with your made up world. Why don't you base your arguments on reality?