Voting Conservative

[Bob Dalek]

Among Johnny Foreigner, the French in particular manage to operate an effective health service, while steadfastly retaining a substantial Offensive Capability.

I say nuclear war, now, to see who's the daddy. I bet we win.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Oh for the good old days of Sexual sleaze. Never had a problem with it myself. Far prefer it to the 'fingers in the till' sleaze we get these days.

What a load of tulipe.

There were plently of Tory fingers in the till (start with Neil Hamilton and Jonathan Aitken), and remember all this stuff on expenses didn't just start - it has been going on for ages, it was FOI that meant we, the proles were finally told about it.

[wonderwaif]

What a load of tulipe.

There were plently of Tory fingers in the till (start with Neil Hamilton and Jonathan Aitken), and remember all this stuff on expenses didn't just start - it has been going on for ages, it was FOI that meant we, the proles were finally told about it.

Didn't say there wasn't any 'fingers in the till', just that it seemed to be more often of a sexual nature, and I'd need more people than you to confirm it wasn't the case.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Didn't say there wasn't any 'fingers in the till', just that it seemed to be more often of a sexual nature, and I'd need more people than you to confirm it wasn't the case.

Sorry - misunderstood. Maybe the sexual stuff is less newsworthy these days because we're all a bit more blase about it?

FOr this lot there was that gay bloke on Clapham Common. Prezza, Beardy. The Tories I can think of were Parkinson (what a worm) Archer, Mellor in his Chelsea strip and that spectacular bloke with the orange in his gob (I'm not counting John Major and Currie because we didn't find out at the time) - who have I forgotten?

[wonderwaif]

I wish Prezza hadn't been newsworthy. I still can't get those terrible images out of my head.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

That is easy - some of us knew that Labour would be as bad - we did not need to see them to know that.

Principly because Labour tends towards this high taxes, high regulation where Tories tend towards low taxes and low regulation.

The reasons for the recession of the early 90's was the belief that a large defecit between what we import and export was a bad thing and to reduce imports we needed to slow the economy down. This is now seen as flawed - once the recession was over, then the economy improved with reducing unemployment, a reducing inflation rate, improved productivity, the country attracted increasing amounts of inward investment. Almost all the pointers that were positive when Labour took over, are now not only are they going in the opposite direction, in a lot of cases they are as bad or worse than 1992 - the tail end of that recession.

1) This only talks about the economy and I base my vote on other issues as well.
2) The detailed summary is through Tory eyes and supposes that governments have a huge influence on the economy which I dispute.
3) Tory governments have been pretty good at taxing us since the war, too - Tax freedom day, the day on which we all stop working for the govenment - as calculated by the Adam Smith institute was at its latest ever under a Tory government.

I don't accept that periods of either Tory or Labour rule have been universally good or bad, to do so would imply adherance to Party dogma rather than facing facts.

[expat]

1) This only talks about the economy and I base my vote on other issues as well.
2) The detailed summary is through Tory eyes and supposes that governments have a huge influence on the economy which I dispute.
3) Tory governments have been pretty good at taxing us since the war, too - Tax freedom day, the day on which we all stop working for the govenment - as calculated by the Adam Smith institute was at its latest ever under a Tory government.

I don't accept that periods of either Tory or Labour rule have been universally good or bad, to do so would imply adherance to Party dogma rather than facing facts.

Absolutely right on all points!

[Peoplesoft bloke]

I wish Prezza hadn't been newsworthy. I still can't get those terrible images out of my head.

Agreed, although David Mellor and Beardy Blunket are hardly an improvement

[Addanc]

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2) The detailed summary is through Tory eyes and supposes that governments have a huge influence on the economy which I dispute.

How about a stamp duty holiday as the latest example? Sort of killed the housing market; Governments may not have great scope for improving things put they can certainly make things a hell of a lot worse.

[Addanc]

Libertarian Party. I really like the idea of small Government, something you will never get with either Liebour or CONservative.