Glasgow Bombers...

[Causus Deli]

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/farri...758974,00.html

Because if this bloke is representative of them then there is no other way they can go...

That is over a year ago, a year in which things have taken quite a few turns for the worse. Do you deny the rights of a fair sized group of people. Whether you agree with their wishes or not it is a moderate sized swell of opinion you dangerously disregard. If you listened to their worries then you/yours perhaps would not be driving so many into a party which you despise so much. I have never read anything in their manifestos that would suggest extremism. That's the boogeyman under your bed.

[The Lone Gunman]

Greg: I see no difference between White supremacists and Muslim (or Christian/Mormon/Jewish/any other) supremacist.

They are all out for domination and the supression or slaughter of others and their rights.

Mule: That bit and another few places too.

[Moscow Mule]

That is over a year ago, a year in which things have taken quite a few turns for the worse. Do you deny the rights of a fair sized group of people. Whether you agree with their wishes or not it is a moderate sized swell of opinion you dangerously disregard. If you listened to their worries then you/yours perhaps would not be driving so many into a party which you despise so much. I have never read anything in their manifestos that would suggest extremism. That's the boogeyman under your bed.

Can you post a link to the (last) manifesto that I can reach from work as I shan't be devoting any of my weekend to this.

The public are worried because of the media whipping them into a frenzy.

Things are screwed in this country because of the last ten years of centralist nonsense and mis-management.

Finding somebody to pick on just makes everybody feel better, not solve any problems. The BNP have found a niche to exploit to further the white-supremacist aims of their leadership, which will lead us along a path most would not wish to follow.

Just beacuase a lot of people think a thing, it doesn't make said thing right.

[Moscow Mule]

Greg: I see no difference between White supremacists and Muslim (or Christian/Mormon/Jewish/any other) supremacist.

They are all out for domination and the supression or slaughter of others and their rights.

Me either.

Mule: That bit and another few places too.

The bit in bold simply means don't favour a non-Muslim over a Muslim. Doesn't mean you can't be friendly.

[SallyAnne]

Aaaaarrrggghhhh <pulls hair out in frustration>.
Muslims can not pick and choose which parts of the Koran they believe. It is the word of God. It is all true. Some things are open to interpretation others are clear cut MUST or MUST NOT does.
To deny the Koran is to deny ones faith. Effectively you would be saying you are not a Muslim anymore.

Christianity can treat its Holy books as metaphorical and open to change apart from a few bits like "Thou shalt not" but breaking the commandments does not reduce you to the state of infidel and the damned.

LG, you're making each and every Muslim out to be a hard core religious fanatic here like. I did my A levels with a load of Muslim kids - we all had a blast...sh*gged each other, drank, smoked, swore...did all the things that "normal" brits do.
Some of them were Muslim, some of them were Sieke, some of them were Hindu, one was a "strict" catholic, and one was me. We were all the f8ckin same!!!

Muslim does not always mean "To deny the Koran is to deny ones faith" - most people dont give that much of a sh*t man.

[EqualOpportunities]

LG, you're making each and every Muslim out to be a hard core religious fanatic here like. I did my A levels with a load of Muslim kids - we all had a blast...sh*gged each other, drank, smoked, swore...did all the things that "normal" brits do.
Some of them were Muslim, some of them were Sieke, some of them were Hundi, one wa "strict" catholic, and one was me. We were all the f8ckin same!!!

Muslim does not always mean "To deny the Koran is to deny ones faith" - most people dont give that much of a sh*t man.

That'll be Sikh and Hindu then

[Causus Deli]

Well, I don't go for their manifesto (I don't believe Hitler stood on a start wold war and kill all Jews manifesto), I go on the various unpleasantnesses that leading BNP members have been caught saying and doing over the years.

Do you mean allegedly, or are you referring to some drunken louts down the pub in a documentary. Let me tell you that in my experience the drunken people down most pubs aren't members of the BNP but they have very strong views on what they want of their country. You wouldn't like it, it involves repatriations etc - something you don't find in the BNP literature. Or was it the NF a few decades ago you refer to? WEll if you do then I say Hain is a violent nasty anti-nazi do anything nutcase.

[The Lone Gunman]

Aren't you being a little fundamentalist yourself? There are plenty of "Christians" who go to church without much belief, out of habit or culture. Similarly there are plenty of "Muslims" who pray perfunctorily to Mecca and go to the mosque, but enjoy a smoke or a drink or the company of "infidels". I know a couple myself.

Then they are not Muslims. It says so in the Koran. They are damned like the rest of us and they may as well give up going to the mosque.

[Causus Deli]

By your standards, we're all fecking geniuses.

Never cheer before you know who's winning. You disagree with my stance does that make you superior sonny?

[Causus Deli]

Can you post a link to the (last) manifesto that I can reach from work as I shan't be devoting any of my weekend to this.

The public are worried because of the media whipping them into a frenzy.

Things are screwed in this country because of the last ten years of centralist nonsense and mis-management.

Finding somebody to pick on just makes everybody feel better, not solve any problems. The BNP have found a niche to exploit to further the white-supremacist aims of their leadership, which will lead us along a path most would not wish to follow.

Just beacuase a lot of people think a thing, it doesn't make said thing right.

Ah so you haven't bothered to enlighten yourself before you make outrageous claims?