Glasgow Bombers...

[Causus Deli]

Yeah and the bible tells us we must put to death anyone who wear a cotton polyester blended garment (or something like that). Religion's just a bit crazy and it's best not to pick out individual bits in isolation to other bits as there are always contradictions.

It's in the interpretation to the present way of living. Christians adapt the teachings to the present, Muslims are being taught they are literal and there lies the problem.

[shaunbhoy]

(pbuh)

That's a nasty cough you have there TLG. You want to be careful!

[lilelvis2000]

I suppose if I was in a place where people were being run-through, blown up or hung - then I might be inclined to leave...to live and fight another day.

But I hardly imagine the current climate meeting the threshold criteria you quoted.

So again:
blah blah blah they can leave blah blah blah if they want to blah blah.

rather catchy don't you think?

[The Lone Gunman]

The UK is hardly a place where muslims are persecuted. Perhaps the gun happy Police are persecuting them, but then they use their silly powers just because they can.

That is the paradox I mentioned earlier. It is also mentioned in that piece from the Guardian in an earlier link.
We are all the enemy because we elected the Government that sends troops to kill Muslim brothers across the world. If we were not guilty then these suicide bombers would be killing innocents and therefore eternaly damned.
If a Muslim supports these bombers then they have to believe we are the enemy.
If we are the enemy then they should not live amongst us.

If we are not the enemy they may live amongst us and try to convert us. If there are enough of them to take power then they should do so and implement Sharia law. It is then a matter of time till we are given the choice of convert or die.

Islam is playing the long game, always has.

[Old Greg]

They need to be given a chance, just to apply our standards (and discard) to these uneducated people is crass stupidity. Stop their dough if they don't work for it, if it ain't worth working make it worth it. More and more belligerents are imported because 'we need them' - bollox like a hole in the head, who needs them to sell sandwiches and pull pints, we have our own people - pay them to do it not sit on their arses? No more students, no more imams, no more grannies, no more relatives, no more asylum seekers - WE DON'T NEED THEM. We have a problem, action is required.

Unsurprisingly, you oversimplify the problem. Most employers simply wouldn't employ these people - they have a range of problems, whether medical or social which simply make unattractive to employers. Taking money away from them won't make them any more attractive to employers. They need support through education and training for one thing - which will cost money. I'd be happy to see their benefits conditional on participation in education and training and I'd apply that to people of all races equally, not make some differentiation between 'us' and 'them' - we are all 'us'. Meanwhile, the jobs being filled by new immigrants are not 'indigenous peoples' jobs' - they are gaps in the labour market that would otherwise have remained unfilled.

Alternatively, I suppose you could put them in uniform and send them on road building projects.

[Causus Deli]

That's a nasty cough you have there TLG. You want to be careful!

This is a classic example of our differences, if any Muslim is reading this he will be highly offended and many would be far worse with consequences if they could. I recall once I referred to arabic as squiggle on a forum some years ago and I got some serious threats. We do not understand and they are very intolerant as also shown by their disdain for our women, habits, lack of God, ascendancy, just about owt really.

[The Lone Gunman]

That's a nasty cough you have there TLG. You want to be careful!

You will burn in hell for that one infidel.

[alreadypacked]

You will burn in hell for that one infidel.

Hope you're this excited later

[The Lone Gunman]

Hope you're this excited later

Have I missed another appointment? I havent read all threads and posts today. Shame on me.

[Causus Deli]

Unsurprisingly, you oversimplify the problem. Most employers simply wouldn't employ these people - they have a range of problems, whether medical or social which simply make unattractive to employers. Taking money away from them won't make them any more attractive to employers. They need support through education and training for one thing - which will cost money. I'd be happy to see their benefits conditional on participation in education and training and I'd apply that to people of all races equally, not make some differentiation between 'us' and 'them' - we are all 'us'. Meanwhile, the jobs being filled by new immigrants are not 'indigenous peoples' jobs' - they are gaps in the labour market that would otherwise have remained unfilled.

Alternatively, I suppose you could put them in uniform and send them on road building projects.

Employers would be subsidised, then the burden is shared. At the moment it's all on me as a taxpayer. We certainly don't need any more education, this generation have god knows what qualifications but can't wipe their arses.

Look I can't write a book here why not try and see between the lines?