Scotland's Independence (make it happen)

[Euro-commuter]

C'mon EC, tis well known that Threaded always posts fatuous bollocks.

Understandable. But that's not what you did

[scooterscot]

I printed this thread when the toilet paper ran out…

[wendigo100]

Neil Oliver (face of britain) is a prime example.
He gets a top TV job in London, then flagrantly boasts of his hatred for the English. He must be the 2nd most hated scotsman in England.

I've never heard of him, but he must be bad to be above two of Blair, Brown or Bremner.

[scooterscot]

I've never heard of him, but he must be bad to be above two of Blair, Brown or Bremner.

Bremmer is one of us? Rory Bremmer? The things you learn...

[Euro-commuter]

I printed this thread when the toilet paper ran out…

Wait.... the thread hasn't run out yet.....

[Troll]

Entirely of their own making? You don't think that the English trade blockade and seizure of Scottish shipping had something to do with it?

Still it's easier to blame the English for everything http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scot...?id=1760952005

IT WAS an ambitious attempt to build a Scottish colony and gain world stature that ended in 2,000 dead and Scotland's eventual union with England.

Now three letters written home from Darien, Panama, to Fife shed more light on life in New Scotland in 1699.

George Douglas, of Strathendry of Leslie Parish, Fife, describes how colonial Scots were forced to defend their trade routes from competing Spaniards while suffering severe shortages in food and material and being obstructed by the English.

Alison Lindsay, of NAS, said: "They were a minor landed family from Fife and one of the many drawn into the excitement of the Darien adventure. The younger sons were the perfect people to go to Darien.

The colony was the brainchild of William Paterson, a Dumfriesshire merchant and the founder of the Bank of England.

Scotland was in a state of famine after seven years of failed harvests and on 17 July, 1698, five ships carrying 1,300 colonists sailed from Leith to Panama. In all, 4,000 volunteers sailed to Panama's peninsula to exploit its riches. In June 1699, the colony was abandoned, but not before 2,000 people had perished from disease, famine and at the hands of Spaniards and Indians.

The catastrophe cost Scotland a quarter of its wealth and led to the Act of Union in 1707.

Dr Anthony Parker, an expert on the Darien colony at Dundee University, said: "The letters show the more prominent role of the Spanish in the downfall of the colony, when many have laid the blame for failure on the Company of Scotland directors and King William III's actions to thwart them."

[scooterscot]

Well you started it...

[threaded]

Still it's easier to blame the English for everything http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scot...?id=1760952005

Oh no, don't use the facts. They get in the way of a good troll. Just allude to them.

[wendigo100]

Bremmer is one of us? Rory Bremmer? The things you learn...

You know which Bremner I mean ... the hateful, spiteful little ginger bastard. Though not if he's on your side of course!

[snaw]

Not really, the Scots were all starving to death and would have signed anything. The English always have been way too nice.

Get your facts straight you soft southern sassanach.

We are bought and sold for English gold. Such a parcel of rogues in a nation,'