AWS profits

[DoctorStrangelove]

That's why I said that. If we spent less on getting outside shonky doing the business we could invest more on inside shonky and perhaps get more for our money and systems that fit the requirement.

A long time ago in the 1950's the government built its own data centres and trained its own developers. They had to go to civil servants and ask if they wanted to be this new thing called a programmer. Wonderful things ensued, technology was pushed forward and we produced people with newly required skills. Now we've abdicated that to buying everything, normally from abroad, at great cost to both our current and future prosperity

Managed decline, dear boy, managed decline.

After all did you see the boat "we" used in the Med last week? At least it didn't have oars. .

[WTFH]

That's why I said that. If we spent less on getting outside shonky doing the business we could invest more on inside shonky and perhaps get more for our money and systems that fit the requirement.

A long time ago in the 1950's the government built its own data centres and trained its own developers. They had to go to civil servants and ask if they wanted to be this new thing called a programmer. Wonderful things ensued, technology was pushed forward and we produced people with newly required skills. Now we've abdicated that to buying everything, normally from abroad, at great cost to both our current and future prosperity

Wait till you hear about who owned and maintained the water, the electricity, the gas, and the telephones in the UK in the 1950s. All "abdicated" as you put it, under Heath and Thatcher, on the promise of competition, improvement in quality and reduction in cost. Now it's owned by refinanced debt so that managers and shareholders get payouts and UK citizens suffer.

[jamesbrown]

I hear AtW profits are up since he opened a soft furnishings outlet next to his kebab shop.

[malvolio]

Wait till you hear about who owned and maintained the water, the electricity, the gas, and the telephones in the UK in the 1950s. All "abdicated" as you put it, under Heath and Thatcher, on the promise of competition, improvement in quality and reduction in cost. Now it's owned by refinanced debt so that managers and shareholders get payouts and UK citizens suffer.

Is that the fault of de-nationalisation or the fault of Ofcom/Ofgem/Ofwat/Ofpiste quangos who failed to regulate the businesses? O that of the civil servants who drafted the contracts who failed to include proper parameters for service delivery?

BTW, in the 70s we had a three week wait for a telephone and a four week wait for the bedside extension for my other half who was an on call emergency worker. Buy a cooker, wait two weeks for an electrician to connect it. Most of the pubic services worked to the same timescales.