We forgot Jesus birthday

[Zigenare]

So someone who was called Jesus (as common as John) was crucified effectively for sedition? It was one of the common example punishments of the Romans. This means beyond doubt he is the son of god? Obviously irrefutable, again a lack of belief in a story regardless of who may have repeated it is not ignorance.

How did Spartacus et al die? Their story is well documented and none of what they achieved was because of alleged miracles.

Were I rude that could be considered a clear proof of your delusion, believing a criminal was actually the son of a "god" is a stretch.

Was Jesus an antisemite? Asking for a friend...
*Note - although I posted the above in jest, it turns out that Rabbi Asor certainly thought so...

Jesus was an anti-Semite, preached against the Old Testament and founded a new religion… These are typical claims uttered by those who oppose the messianic faith and Jesus.
In his book, Rabbi Asor repeats the claim several times – that Jesus and his disciples were anti-Semites. But was Jesus really an anti-Semite? If so, what about the rebukes and angry prophecies by the Old Testament Prophets? Were they anti-Semites too? And what about a Jewish-Israeli reporter who criticizes Rabbi Ovadia Yosef and Rabbi Rentgen? Is he being anti-Semitic? Or is anyone who disagrees with the rabbis automatically labelled “anti-Semitic”?
It’s a convenient way to deal with people you want to silence, isn’t it? To accuse anyone who disagrees with you of being “anti-Semitic”. But Jesus was a Jew from the tribe of Judah, not some anti-Semitic gentile.
Just like the Biblical prophets of old, Jesus criticized the religious leaders of his people, which is the exact reason that they call him an anti-Semite. The Messiah, more than any prophet before him, has the right to challenge the people of Israel and their leaders about their sins. Jesus’ opinion of the Law is clear to anyone who will bother to read the New Testament.

https://www.oneforisrael.org/bible-b...n-anti-semite/

[WTFH]

Were I rude that could be considered a clear proof of your delusion, believing a criminal was actually the son of a "god" is a stretch.

Speaking of “delusion”, please provide a link to where I said that.

[xoggoth]

Who cares about the birth dates of nobodies like that? It's MY birthday today, that's all that matters!

[NotAllThere]

That sounds rather benign given the effect that organised religions have had and are having, namely being used to manipulate the (kept that way) ignorant masses by the "educated" few. "You don't need to read the holy texts, I shall read them to you" has led to all types of shenanigans through history...

And why, e.g. John Wycliffe was executed.

Funny how the church tried to prevent the Bible being in the venacular. And also totalitarian states often try to ban it. And not because of "hate speech". It's almost as if it undermines those clinging on to authority.

[NotAllThere]

Who cares about the birth dates of nobodies like that? It's MY birthday today, that's all that matters!

Happy Birthday.

[xoggoth]

Thank you NAT. Where's my present???

[DoctorStrangelove]

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[ladymuck]

That sounds rather benign given the effect that organised religions have had and are having, namely being used to manipulate the (kept that way) ignorant masses by the "educated" few. "You don't need to read the holy texts, I shall read them to you" has led to all types of shenanigans through history...

That's a fair point. I was thinking more about the oral traditions of, say, Aboriginal tribes in Oz, and other groups that have their own origin stories that aren't necessarily written down. There's loads of pagan tales, Norse sagas, Greco-Roman shenanigans that also fall into the "entertaining" camp but still contain something of a message that is designed to convey societal norms and expected behaviours.

[Zigenare]

That's a fair point. I was thinking more about the oral traditions of, say, Aboriginal tribes in Oz, and other groups that have their own origin stories that aren't necessarily written down. There's loads of pagan tales, Norse sagas, Greco-Roman shenanigans that also fall into the "entertaining" camp but still contain something of a message that is designed to convey societal norms and expected behaviours.

That also is a fair point - things changed I feel when some chaps worked out they could gain influence and a few dinarius etc.

[vetran]

It seems the supermarkets know about teh inconcistency

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...-born-yet.html

Easter treats appear on supermarket shelves in December - leaving people to joke 'Jesus hasn't even been born yet'

now are they late for this year or early for next year?