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Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
Steady, you'll give certain snowflakes on here a thrombosis!Comment
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Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
Why else are illegal immigrants, ~8000 of them identifying as Syrian risking their lives crossing the English Channel to get to the UK?
What could possibly be the attraction, knowing that they have travelled through numerous other safe territories, why risk their lives again to cross one of the busiest seaways in the world? What is there in the UK that makes them take that risk if not accommodation, money, healthcare, education and very little chance of being sent back to their own country?
The proof of the pudding will be in the eating, if as you are saying that they were fleeing a war torn country then now that the threat has gone there's no reason for the majority of them to stay.
Given most of the people crossing successfully claim asylum then by definition they're not illegal immigrants but refugees
People come to Britain for many reasons… for one we speak English, they might have extended family here etc. There are also plenty of other people who claim asylum elsewhere along the way (many more than actually make it to the UK)
Near the start of the thread you said that you feared Syria would become an Islamic State so that's plenty of reason for some not to go back
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Originally posted by Andy2022 View Post
Arriving by a small boat over the channel isn't illegal if someone is claiming asylum and they are successful in claiming it.
Given most of the people crossing successfully claim asylum then by definition they're not illegal immigrants but refugees
People come to Britain for many reasons… for one we speak English, they might have extended family here etc. There are also plenty of other people who claim asylum elsewhere along the way (many more than actually make it to the UK)
Near the start of the thread you said that you feared Syria would become an Islamic State so that's plenty of reason for some not to go back
Originally posted by The Illegal Migration Act 2023Illegal Migration Act
The Illegal Migration Act, which came into law in July 2023, prevents people who arrive in the UK by small boat from claiming asylum or protection. The act states that these people will be detained indefinitely and eventually removed to a third country.Comment
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Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
Why else are illegal immigrants, ~8000 of them identifying as Syrian risking their lives crossing the English Channel to get to the UK?
What could possibly be the attraction, knowing that they have travelled through numerous other safe territories, why risk their lives again to cross one of the busiest seaways in the world? What is there in the UK that makes them take that risk if not accommodation, money, healthcare, education and very little chance of being sent back to their own country?
Reasons for coming all the way to the UK may include those already mentioned - language or family/friends - but it might also be because other countries are full or, like some, ignore their obligations under the Dublin Regulation. Based on the size of country and population, we're nowhere near pulling our weight, yet plenty of people have been whipped up by right wing media and the likes of Farage into thinking that asylum seekers are crippling our country.
Some refugees will have now settled and created a new life here, working, raising a family and contributing to our economy (and thereby supporting a lot of British-born beneficiaries of our infrastructure and welfare system); they may choose not to return. But many might, especially in light of the hateful reception shown to them by a nation supposedly known for its decency and kindness, whose citizens ironically have a melting pot of immigrant and refugee ancestors. I suspect if we were to trace your family tree or vetran's we won't have to go too far to find an ancestor who came here from another country and benefitted from UK hospitality. I think the same is true of most little Englanders.Comment
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Originally posted by Zigenare View PostMy warped sense of humour, not to everyone's taste I'll grant you. However I can't guarantee I'll lose any sleep over your faux offence.Comment
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Originally posted by Snooky View Post
This is just like someone making a really offensive comment and then, when someone is actually offended by it, attempting to divert the blame by saying "It was only a JOKE - can't you take a joke?"…Maybe we ain’t that young anymoreComment
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Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
For starters there are other conventions e.g. EHCR, and International Law that applies too
Creating a law that basically says it's illegal for people to come here but giving them no way to claim asylum fails our obligations under other laws and treatiesComment
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