I wonder what the emissions from that were?

[vetran]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Wimbledon.html

An electric double decker bus burst into flames in London this morning, causing rush hour mayhem as 'terrified' witnesses reported hearing a 'huge bang'.

Clouds of smoke billowed from the vehicle in the centre of Wimbledon after it caught fire at about 7.20am, with firefighters setting up an 80ft (25m) cordon.

Three fire engines and 15 firefighters raced to the scene, with dramatic photographs showing the blaze destroyed the rear of the bus and blew out the back windows.

hmm seem to be a lot of battery fires nowadays.

[northernladuk]

I imagine there appears to be a lot of battery fires and it's newsworthy where clapped out old petrol bangers catching fire is not so it's focussed rather than prolific.

Random question but what is insurance like for electric cars? I ask partly because they would appear to have a habit of catching fire but don't know the statistics. I'd assume they'll get loaded to buggery if the is a greater chance.

The other is out of interest. My brother in law has had diesel/hybrid big 4x4s for the family. Most recently the popular Mitsubishi hybrid thing. All slow and steady. He's now got a Tesla and hits the acceleration as often as he can. On paper his car can accelerate at an equivalent rate as my 700hp Nissan but without the massive tyres, hard suspension and huge brakes. He's also never driven high power cars before. Scares the living daylight out of most people that gives lifts. Hasn't there been a huge rise in Tesla accidents where your average bod is put in to a car that outperform 90% of other things on the road, without the experience as well as gear to keep them planted and stop them?
Won't the insurance for a middle of the range tesla be the same as mine? How can everyone get insurance with that level of power and acceleration?

[cojak]

Off-topic I know, but I only buy second hand cars and my next one will be good old petrol. There's no way I'll buy a 5 year-old EV and have the battery die on me 6 months later.

[dsc]

Off-topic I know, but I only buy second hand cars and my next one will be good old petrol. There's no way I'll buy a 5 year-old EV and have the battery die on me 6 months later.

You get warranty up to 100k miles but from what I've read they don't need replacing till at least 200k miles mark. That of course leaves a pretty large gap of a 100k between the two, but it's really down to how much you drive and how old the EV is to start with. Don't they offer battery health indication on most models? No idea how that works, but if you don't slam them hard with some weird charging or it doesn't catch fire, you are good

[edison]

That may be true but if the technology (particularly the batteries) is rapidly improving, won't older EVs likely suffer heavy depreciation in years to come?

[SueEllen]

For those who don't want to see the DM link it's on the beeb - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67944657

[SueEllen]

Off-topic I know, but I only buy second hand cars and my next one will be good old petrol. There's no way I'll buy a 5 year-old EV and have the battery die on me 6 months later.

From one of my local forums the big issue with them this year was insurance on them doubling or more.

So while my petrol car insurance went up 41% those with EVs found that their old insurer didn't insure EVs any more and the insurers who did doubled or more their insurance. Most of the people complaining had BMWs and Audis.

[Eirikur]

Every time an EV catches fire the gammons seem to enjoy it for some reason. I've seen a diesel or Petrol car on fire, so often I forgot how many, but that news gets ignored by the Daily mail readers

[SueEllen]

Every time an EV catches fire the gammons seem to enjoy it for some reason. I've seen a diesel or Petrol car on fire, so often I forgot how many, but that news gets ignored by the Daily mail readers

I first saw the news on the Metro.

Then the beeb had it followed by other outlets like the Daily Mail.

[dsc]

From one of my local forums the big issue with them this year was insurance on them doubling or more.

So while my petrol car insurance went up 41% those with EVs found that their old insurer didn't insure EVs any more and the insurers who did doubled or more their insurance. Most of the people complaining had BMWs and Audis.

Curious why, is it the fact that in an accident if the battery body gets damaged it's bin time, or something else. Typically insurance goes up due to claims, but this is fairly new technology, so perhaps the risk has been assessed as higher due to something we don't yet know but insurers know from manufacturers?