Sure sounds like censorship to me...

[NotAllThere]

What about toilets which appears the most hysteria is about?

(Women's toilets in the UK and most of Europe have full length cubicles there as they don't all tend to in the US.)

Same law applies.

[cojak]

Well, since I will never convince others, and they will never convince me, I will simply stand by my trans friends (men and women) and enjoy their company and protect them when I can IRL.

[SueEllen]

Same law applies.

Who polices it though?


In the UK in some pubs and bars bouncers will police who goes into the toilets if a patron complains - though normally it is women going into the men's due to there not being a queue. In other places they don't care as long as you aren't misbehaving.

[NotAllThere]

Who polices it though?

This is Switzerland. We police each other. No need for CCTV for us! Seriously, so long as people are respectful towards one another and discrete, then nobody cares!

Funny thing, in my theatre group there's a 13 year old trans-girl. I wouldn't have know if her mother (who's exceedingly woke) hadn't told me - sort of ironic really. I'd have just assumed she's just very small for her age and a bit odd-looking. We don't segregate the changing rooms by sex - although we provide screening for those who are shy - so no issues will arise.

The only difficulty I have during rehearsals is remembering the one girl who wants to be referred to by male pronouns, and a boy who wants to be referred to by they/their etc. Referring to them by name is easiest.

[cojak]

This is Switzerland. We police each other. No need for CCTV for us! Seriously, so long as people are respectful towards one another and discrete, then nobody cares!

Funny thing, in my theatre group there's a 13 year old trans-girl. I wouldn't have know if her mother (who's exceedingly woke) hadn't told me. I'd have just assumed she's just very small for her age and a bit odd-looking. We don't segregate the changing rooms by sex - although we provide screening for those who are shy - so no issues will arise.

Really, this is what matters most - respect for others from all sides. Stand up to idiots from all sides.

[wattaj]

Well, since I will never convince others, and they will never convince me, I will simply stand by my trans friends (men and women) and enjoy their company and protect them when I can IRL.

TBF, you've not actually tried to convince anyone of anything.

[northernladuk]

Really, this is what matters most - respect for others from all sides. Stand up to idiots from all sides.

Absolutely but I don't think a good many people have a problem with that. It's when specific problems occur and a solution to an issue has to be found. Respect from all sides doesn't solve the problem of women being uncomfortable with a trans woman in changing rooms for example. Difficult situation with differing opinions and people's feelings getting involved.