Some people thought it was a hoax

[SueEllen]

Aunty & the slaver are not always reliable either.

None of the MSM are though.

There are some contentious stories where regardless of their political alignment and backers were they all say the same thing.

You only think of some of the media outlets that Trump stopped engaging with him e.g. BBC, Channel 4, Daily Mail to see this.

[SueEllen]

Reported by the Guardian. Must be true then.

It is actually reported by other news outlets but The Guardian is the easiest for me to post on my phone and you all have easy access to the link.

And yes , The Guardian group is so (not) not financially supported by George Soros. (Do your proper research before knocking this statement)

Mmmm....

Looks like the propaganda machine is well lubricated and resources. Keep on going.

The fact is Covid virus is not a haux, but the UK and global response to it certainly proven, with fact supporting that was full of haux. All the mandates, lock downs, masks, vaccinating kids and so on were all supported by what is proven to be haux.

As for the rest of the points, all loads of liberal progressive propaganda nonsense. Only a moron would take this article seriously.

Remember Italy? Governments had to do the "best" they could with their understanding of the scientific facts at the time.

[NotAllThere]

As George Carlin said: think of how stupid the average person is, and realise half of them are stupider than that.

I think it's enough to take the fact that the average IQ is 100, and that's not very bright.

Global social and mass media just makes it easier for idiots to ingest nonsense and propagate their stupidity.

Indeed.

And yes , The Guardian group is so (not) not financially supported by George Soros

So what if it is?

[xoggoth]

Conspiracy theorists aren't necessarily stupid. Many of them are highly educated and in professional jobs like surgeons, solicitors, etc

Tend to agree. Don't think there is much correlation between intellligence and grasp of reality. Some people driven by unrealistic idealism are pretty bright.

[woohoo]

Tend to agree. Don't think there is much correlation between intellligence and grasp of reality. Some people driven by unrealistic idealism are pretty bright.

I don't know, I think it's good that there are people out there questioning everything, sure they would say you havent fully grasped reality. It's not a bad way to be. I would find it pretty tiring to be honest, I'm happy with a simple life but still.

[d000hg]

I don't know, I think it's good that there are people out there questioning everything

There's a difference between questioning (a good thing IMO) and disregarding all the answers given, claiming that your unsubstantiated view trumps the collective view of the world's experts on a topic. Onr well ask "is there a dubious motive behind this?" but simply claiming any person or resource which claims "no there isn't" is "part of the plot" is hardly laudable.

There seems to be the argument amidst all this distrust of experts that "all views are equally valid". Because a lorry driver claims "covid is a hoax and lots of my mates agree" then we should take that view seriously. Wisdom of crowds doesn't always apply.

[hugebrain]

A quarter to a third of the UK population are as thick as mince according to a survey.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...theories-finds

The UK is home to millions more conspiracy theorists than most people realise, with almost a quarter of the population believing Covid-19 was probably or definitely a hoax, polling has revealed.

I think now that the masks, vaccines, natural origin of Covid, are all proven to be hoaxes, they are trying to squirm out of saying they’re sorry by pretending that the people who doubted them believe something else.

FYI, here are the main conspiracy theories in order of truthfulness.

Flat Earth - definitely false (unless you count non-carbonated)
Curious George is George Bush - probably false
Big Mike and Jacinda are men - maybe one of each
We never went to the moon - fifty-fifty
Great replacement - true
Kennedy not killed by lone gunman - definitely true

[JustKeepSwimming]

I think now that the masks, vaccines, natural origin of Covid, are all proven to be hoaxes, they are trying to squirm out of saying they’re sorry by pretending that the people who doubted them believe something else.

All three of them had 'scientific consensus' which was used to dismiss anyone who disagreed.

We never went to the moon - fifty-fifty

99% absolutely happened.

[TwoWolves]

Nineteen per cent of people in the survey said it was true or probably true that “the UK government carried out the 2005 attacks on the underground in London to encourage support for war in the Middle East”, and 18% said it was definitely or probably true that “the Manchester Arena attack involved ‘crisis actors’ who pretended to be injured or killed – people weren’t really killed or injured”.

This is a common British Muslim trope; I've been earnestly told this on several occasions by Asians here with quite impressive careers and education.

I don't think you can put all conspiracy theories into a single pot, they all have their own origins and motivations. Some even turn out to be true in the fullness of time.

[Burns]

And yes , The Guardian group is so (not) not financially supported by George Soros. (Do your proper research before knocking this statement)

The burden of proof in this circumstance is on you, not the reader.

haux

Is this similar to a hoax?