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How do you calculate IR35 take home pay when calculators contradict each other?

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    #11
    Originally posted by sezchwarn View Post
    My calculations are on £450 per day, inside IR35, you get £102k take home (assuming 228 days per year). And on that, around £28k personal tax and £6k employee NI. Meaning a take-home of £68k or £5.6k per month.

    Have I got it right?
    There needs to be at least an assumption about how much you're allowing for pension contributions.

    If you want a good basis of estimate, I'd suggest that you ask a well rated umbrella company for an illustration.


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      #12
      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
      And maybe check which part of the forums you are posting in. As one glance will tell you there isn't a single professional post in the his section, for a good reason.
      Along with which: do you like films about gladiators?

      Have you bled the radiators?
      When the fun stops, STOP.

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        #13
        now that I am back io contracting and living in the Euro zone with British and Euro passports, I can apply for these Hybrid contracts in the UK which are inside IR35 and since I am not in Blighty I can take an inside IR35 contract and don't have to be IR35 lol

        how cool is that

        Milan

        Milan

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          #14
          Basically inside IR35 you pay less tax, but it’s all jam tomorrow.

          For the first year you can pop 160,000 into your pension (more now?) so it’s not too bad, but then minimum wage just pays for your ISA and leaves you with nothing to live on. But the second year it starts to get crazy. You are faced with around 100 grand in tax which means you have to pop around 330,000 in your venture capital trust to stay paying zero income tax.

          Big dent in your war chest. If you manage to survive 5 years then your venture capital trusts start paying out tons of tax-free lolly and everything is fine again. But I’d recommend not doing more than a couple of years in a row inside IR35, because you really have to live off your savings while you are doing it. So just keep looking for a proper contract while you suffer through the almost-permie phase.

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            #15
            Originally posted by hugebrain View Post
            Gibberish with added implausible stupidity
            FTFY

            But let's do the calculation for the OP

            Agency fee £450 * 228 = £102,680
            Umbrella margin £1200
            Apprenticeship Levy ~ £440
            Employer NI ~ £12000

            Gross pay ~ £89040
            Gross Pay 100% £89,040 £7,420 £1,712.31
            Tax free allowance 14% £12,579 £1,048.25 £241.90
            Total taxable 85% £76,461 £6,371.75 £1,470.40
            Total Tax Due 25% £23,044.40 £1,920.37 £443.16
            20% rate 8% £7,540 £628.33 £145
            40% rate 17% £15,504.40 £1,292.03 £298.16
            45% rate 0% £0 £0 £0
            Student Loan 0% £0 £0 £0
            National Insurance 5% £5,299.40 £441.62 £101.91
            Total Deductions 31% £28,343.80 £2,361.98 £545.07
            Net Wage 68% £60,696.20 £5,058.02 £1,167.23
            From https://listentotaxman.com/?year=202...e=1&ingr=89040 for 2023/4
            merely at clientco for the entertainment

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