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    #21
    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
    I think that is a massive part of what is going on. The radio show I heard described it in detail and it hit a note with me when I think of someone I know who lost parents at around the same age. The psychologist on the show broke it all down with examples and it turns out that William could likely be a pretty broken person inside but his royal duties covered most of it up and this is him just lashing out from an institution he turned against as he tried to deal with the death of Diana. Very sad but it all made a lot of sense by the end of the show.
    Whether one likes the crown and the princes or not, it's a horrific thing to have lived through - not just the death of your mother but the circumstances. Harry has openly blamed the media/tabloids for her death and it's pretty obvious he has a huge chip on his shoulder over it which he seems to have allowed to take control over him more rather than less - an engrained bitterness. William may have felt the same but he doesn't seem to have dwelled on it to the same extent, maybe simply he never had the opportunity or maybe he was better able to grieve and move on. Or as you say he might have just repressed it. But to me it seems William had a horrible experience and has tried to leave it behind whereas Harry choses to let it define him.
    Originally posted by MaryPoppins
    I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
    Originally posted by vetran
    Urine is quite nourishing

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      #22
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      Originally posted by MaryPoppins
      I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
      Originally posted by vetran
      Urine is quite nourishing

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        #23
        Originally posted by d000hg View Post
        Whether one likes the crown and the princes or not, it's a horrific thing to have lived through - not just the death of your mother but the circumstances. Harry has openly blamed the media/tabloids for her death and it's pretty obvious he has a huge chip on his shoulder over it which he seems to have allowed to take control over him more rather than less - an engrained bitterness. William may have felt the same but he doesn't seem to have dwelled on it to the same extent, maybe simply he never had the opportunity or maybe he was better able to grieve and move on. Or as you say he might have just repressed it. But to me it seems William had a horrible experience and has tried to leave it behind whereas Harry choses to let it define him.
        Martin Lewis lost his mother at roughly the same age as Harry.

        https://www.heart.co.uk/showbiz/cele...-tragic-death/

        "My mum was there one day and she wasn't the next and that was it. This was 1984 and you didn't have counselling. My childhood ended that day and I am still not over it."

        When you are a child 3 years is a lot of difference in maturity.
        "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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          #24
          Originally posted by d000hg View Post
          But to me it seems William had a horrible experience and has tried to leave it behind whereas Harry choses to let it define him.
          William married well, Harry didn't.
          But I discovered nothing else but depraved, excessive superstition. Pliny the younger

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            #25
            Originally posted by Gibbon View Post

            William married well, Harry didn't.
            Harry's issues were well in evidence before he married. And I don't buy this "let's just blame the wife"... it's a nice narrative for The Crown but real life is rarely that simple.
            Originally posted by MaryPoppins
            I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
            Originally posted by vetran
            Urine is quite nourishing

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              #26
              He does seem a bit to be "it's all someone else's fault" though. At 21 he used the term 'Paki' without knowing it was offensive 'because nobody ever told me' and the same year, his famous Nazi party dress was "because William told me to do it".
              Originally posted by MaryPoppins
              I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
              Originally posted by vetran
              Urine is quite nourishing

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                #27
                Originally posted by d000hg View Post

                Harry's issues were well in evidence before he married. And I don't buy this "let's just blame the wife"... it's a nice narrative for The Crown but real life is rarely that simple.
                His behaviour changed significantly when he met her.

                He was set to be the annoying royal who moaned and was sent off to the provinces or ended up in the army for a lifetime, now he is in the colonies and off script.
                Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                  #28
                  Oh well at least he's keeping the rest e.g. Prince Andrew out of the media with his moaning.
                  "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by vetran View Post

                    His behaviour changed significantly when he met her.
                    His family weren't too keen on her; he chose his woman over his family. Not an uncommon story. Family feuds run for decades over "what aunty Sue said about my fiance". There's clearly at least a kernel of truth in all the "not approved of by the family" stuff.
                    Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                    I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
                    Originally posted by vetran
                    Urine is quite nourishing

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