NHS

[AtW]

“NHS will cease to exist if we only ever throw taxpayers’ money at it, warns Labour

Wes Streeting says health service needs ‘significant additional resources’ to reduce backlogs, but a boost to funding is not the only answer

Labour has warned that ministers cannot keep just throwing “ever increasing taxpayers’ money” at the NHS, as the party called for sweeping reforms.

Wes Streeting, the shadow health secretary, said putting “ever increasing amounts of taxpayers’ money into a 20th century model of care” could bring about the demise of the health service, as he called for sweeping reforms.

The Labour MP made the case as NHS officials seek to close a £7 billion funding gap next year, on top of planned increases in the health budget.

Mr Streeting said the health service needed “significant additional resources”, insisting that Labour’s own plans to expand the NHS workforce showed “the cavalry is coming”.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-warns-labour/

oh wow! Looks like Labour will be tax cutting Govt!

[malvolio]

“NHS will cease to exist if we only ever throw taxpayers’ money at it, warns Labour

Wes Streeting says health service needs ‘significant additional resources’ to reduce backlogs, but a boost to funding is not the only answer

Labour has warned that ministers cannot keep just throwing “ever increasing taxpayers’ money” at the NHS, as the party called for sweeping reforms.

Wes Streeting, the shadow health secretary, said putting “ever increasing amounts of taxpayers’ money into a 20th century model of care” could bring about the demise of the health service, as he called for sweeping reforms.

The Labour MP made the case as NHS officials seek to close a £7 billion funding gap next year, on top of planned increases in the health budget.

Mr Streeting said the health service needed “significant additional resources”, insisting that Labour’s own plans to expand the NHS workforce showed “the cavalry is coming”.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-warns-labour/

oh wow! Looks like Labour will be tax cutting Govt!

Throwing money at it won't work, so we will throw more people at it instead...

So all they need now is a large supply of qualified medical staff that don't cost anything. Simples...

[vetran]

Having spent a few years running IT support the most sensible solution seems to tier the response and use triage (oh look a medical term) and process to make best usage of what skills we have.

This for instance

https://www.england.nhs.uk/gp/case-s...re-north-west/

• Over 4 months the social prescriber has seen 40 patients. Looking at the attendance of just 3 of these patients between May 2018 and February 2019 (10 months) the practice found that collectively they had seen a GP on 20 occasions for a total of 600 minutes. Since first visiting the social prescriber in March 2019 (3 months) this has reduced to 1 visit by 1 of the patients.

Delegate wellness checks to vans in supermarket car parks like breast scans.

Automate tests and scan result verification using AI.

Use 111 style pathways on the NHS app to diagnose minor ailments.

plenty of possibilities.

[WTFH]

Having spent a few years running IT support the most sensible solution seems to tier the response and use triage (oh look a medical term) and process to make best usage of what skills we have.

This for instance

https://www.england.nhs.uk/gp/case-s...re-north-west/



Delegate wellness checks to vans in supermarket car parks like breast scans.

Automate tests and scan result verification using AI.

Use 111 style pathways on the NHS app to diagnose minor ailments.

plenty of possibilities.

Totally agree.
Also, don't outsource everything to management consultancies (without the ability to fine them when they fail to deliver) or make parts of the process "profit centres".

[d000hg]

If it's not just tax money needed, are Labour suggesting a private model of healthcare?!

[The Spartan]

Totally agree.
Also, don't outsource everything to management consultancies (without the ability to fine them when they fail to deliver) or make parts of the process "profit centres".

It's incredible the amount of contracts the UK Government hands out without having built in penalty clauses, I've seen it first-hand at 3 different Government departments. You'd swear it was run by amateurs, oh wait ....

[malvolio]

Having spent a few years running IT support the most sensible solution seems to tier the response and use triage (oh look a medical term) and process to make best usage of what skills we have.

This for instance

https://www.england.nhs.uk/gp/case-s...re-north-west/



Delegate wellness checks to vans in supermarket car parks like breast scans.

Automate tests and scan result verification using AI.

Use 111 style pathways on the NHS app to diagnose minor ailments.

plenty of possibilities.

Almost all of which is already in place - many routine tests are fully automated, using a range of technologies (like your Lateral Flow test for example) but stuff like breast scans are possibly outside the reach of current AIs - and who do you sue if they get it wrong?.

Doesn't stop people going to A&E when they can't get a GP appointment, turning an acute service into a chronic one.

[WTFH]

If it's not just tax money needed, are Labour suggesting a private model of healthcare?!

No, they are suggesting that it's more people that are required in the right places. Throwing money at redecorating a ward and calling it a new hospital is not the way forward.

[vetran]

Almost all of which is already in place - many routine tests are fully automated, using a range of technologies (like your Lateral Flow test for example) but stuff like breast scans are possibly outside the reach of current AIs - and who do you sue if they get it wrong?.

Doesn't stop people going to A&E when they can't get a GP appointment, turning an acute service into a chronic one.

Actually its not, the social prescriber is not. If I want a PSA or other test its reluctantly taken. It should be ah you are over 50 lets take your blood and run a battery of tests.

Lateral flow test is a good example they didn't know how to automate so they managed to cross contaminate tests. If they were already doing it as normal they would have managed that better.

A number of studies have proven AI is more than capable of out performing humans in identifying cancers in scans. Soon they will be real time so give feedback to the operator.

[Paddy]

1,720 doctors being EU nationals left the UK after Brexit. Over 30,000 nurses being EU nationals left the UK after Brexit some of whom I know personally who left after Brexit. Considering both Tory and Labour are pro Brexit, then this will not be raised in Parliament.