RAF - ''offers to white men are paused to meet diversity targets"

[northernladuk]

Nope, they can't. There are a miriad of reasons why some won't make the grade. That shouldn't stop them from trying though.

I agree but if they attempt to give everyone fair opportunity to try and they fail themselves then so be it. It's not a diversity problem based on anything holding a single race/gender or whatever back. Again, the RAF is way different than most jobs. Of the 14% of non whites a good majority either can't or won't apply anyway so attempting to get the people in teh RAF to meet national diversity targets is wholly wrong. That's the root of the problem IMO, the figures and targets, not the actual process itself.

EDIT : I actually think having a look around the web my 'good majority' comment when talking about the 14% that don't want to join could actually be way off.

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[SueEllen]

You really are trying to spoil my day aren't you ..... I refuse to listen to you and your heretic falsehoods!

Her children are cute -

Edited to say - I think Jase's children are now teenagers.

[vetran]

I agree but if they attempt to give everyone fair opportunity to try and they fail themselves then so be it. It's not a diversity problem based on anything holding a single race/gender or whatever back. Again, the RAF is way different than most jobs. Of the 14% of non whites a good majority either can't or won't apply anyway so attempting to get the people in teh RAF to meet national diversity targets is wholly wrong. That's the root of the problem IMO, the figures and targets, not the actual process itself.

EDIT : I actually think having a look around the web my 'good majority' comment when talking about the 14% that don't want to join could actually be way off.

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Though to be fair having a few Muslims along might help in certain areas with intelligence and cultural knowledge. I am constantly learning about other cultures practices, much would be important in a war zone. I know if I were receiving Aid in Africa and was African it would be nice to see people with the same skin (yes its racist but hey we all are basically racist when scared).

One does wonder if being an X first and a Brit second is a reasonable stance in war?

[Zigenare]

Though to be fair having a few Muslims along might help in certain areas with intelligence and cultural knowledge. I am constantly learning about other cultures practices, much would be important in a war zone. I know if I were receiving Aid in Africa and was African it would be nice to see people with the same skin (yes its racist but hey we all are basically racist when scared).

One does wonder if being an X first and a Brit second is a reasonable stance in war?

Hopefully the battlefield won't include Blackburn, Bolton or Accrington!

[WTFH]

One does wonder if being an X first and a Brit second is a reasonable stance in war?

I think you, and the Muslim guy in the screenshot make a very valid point. There's a difference between fighting a war to defend the country where you live against attacks on that country and being sent to somewhere else to fight a war that is political/ideology/financial.
Some (Such as Bliar) will argue that the war in Iraq or Afghanistan was about defending Britain, but if it was, then we should have stayed until we won the peace, not just winning the war. Unfortunately, there is very little glory or financial gain to be made from peace, easier to pull troops out and leave the locals to rebuild.

[vetran]

I think you, and the Muslim guy in the screenshot make a very valid point. There's a difference between fighting a war to defend the country where you live against attacks on that country and being sent to somewhere else to fight a war that is political/ideology/financial.
Some (Such as Bliar) will argue that the war in Iraq or Afghanistan was about defending Britain, but if it was, then we should have stayed until we won the peace, not just winning the war. Unfortunately, there is very little glory or financial gain to be made from peace, easier to pull troops out and leave the locals to rebuild.

Or as Biden/Bidden pull out and feck up 20 years of progress.