Planning Permission

[DealorNoDeal]

And? What is your objection to a ST? Planners are supposed to be pragmatic.

It just doesn't sound right that you can install a septic tank in an agricultural field without a permit. What if it's discharging where it shouldn't be? With a lot of planning applications these days the planners won't allow septic tanks and insist on treatment plants to protect the environment.

I presume you'd draw the line at him turning the barn into a dwelling without PP? He's got a kitchen and a bathroom in it, so he's already half way there.

[DealorNoDeal]

https://www.inbrief.co.uk/agricultural-law/farm-shops/

Planning permission is not normally needed for existing buildings that are run as a farm shop and only sell unprocessed produce produced on the farm where the farm shop is situated.

Aye but this farm shop doesn't sell anything produced on the land (it's not on a farm). It's all brought in from outside.

[BlasterBates]

It just doesn't sound right that you can install a septic tank in an agricultural field without a permit. What if it's discharging where it shouldn't be? With a lot of planning applications these days the planners won't allow septic tanks and insist on treatment plants to protect the environment.

I presume you'd draw the line at him turning the barn into a dwelling without PP? He's got a kitchen and a bathroom in it, so he's already half way there.

A barn is a place of work, will the farmer be expected to do a 10 km round trip everytime he wants to use the toilet?

[DealorNoDeal]

A barn is a place of work, will the farmer be expected to do a 10 km round trip everytime he wants to use the toilet?

This barn is not a place of work. The guy's got a full-time job elsewhere. As I said, it's not a farm. It's just a few acre field with a barn in it. Even the shop is unattended.

[jainnode]

what a sad, benighted curtain twitcher

[ns1]

It just doesn't sound right that you can install a septic tank in an agricultural field without a permit.

Septic tanks are covered by building regs, so dob him into Building Control. They're pretty hot about illegal jobbies.

[DealorNoDeal]

what a sad, benighted curtain twitcher

I've just read some of your posts.

Oh, and what does FOG mean?

[d000hg]

It just doesn't sound right that you can install a septic tank in an agricultural field without a permit. What if it's discharging where it shouldn't be? With a lot of planning applications these days the planners won't allow septic tanks and insist on treatment plants to protect the environment.

Very true on STs becoming harder and harder to install, but agricultural land sounds an ideal place for the drainage field to me.

I presume you'd draw the line at him turning the barn into a dwelling without PP? He's got a kitchen and a bathroom in it, so he's already half way there.

Except for being grumpy I can't do the same, why should I care?

[DealorNoDeal]

Except for being grumpy I can't do the same, why should I care?

Why can't you do the same? Chances are, like him, you'd get away with it.

Agricultural land is only about £10k/acre.

He has applied for PP to build a house on the land but I wouldn't have thought he'd stand much chance, especially as it's in an AONB.

[d000hg]

Why can't you do the same? Chances are, like him, you'd get away with it.

Agricultural land is only about £10k/acre.

He has applied for PP to build a house on the land but I wouldn't have thought he'd stand much chance, especially as it's in an AONB.

We tried to buy some agricultural land when we lived down there, no farmers would sell it

Trolling aside I am a bit ambivalent. I want to have my view spoiled as little as the next guy but neither do I like come jumped up council jobsworth telling me what I can do with my land/house and at least intellectually it's obvious if we only allow development that nobody objects to, nothing would ever get built I live in a small village and every thing anyone wants to do is met by a wave of negativity "we don't need that" "they should do a car park instead" "what about the traffic" "that's next to my house can't it go somewhere else". I'm sure I would be just the same if it was next to me