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[WTFH]

Being poor/white/green/ polkadot/Somalian/whatever-you-fancy-this-week does not make you educationally disadvantaged. It's parental influence and peer pressure as much as anything does that. If you don't have a work ethic to drive you to achieve, or fear ridicule from the bigger boys if you are good at something non-physical, or believe you can have anything you fancy without effort, then you will fail regardless of where you sit in the demography of the country.

Are you suggesting that the UK government is NOT largely made up of very wealthy individuals who inherited their wealth and got an expensive education, who have succeeded because of the wealth, education and who they know. That our government is the most intelligent people in the land?

[SueEllen]

Are you suggesting that the UK government is NOT largely made up of very wealthy individuals who inherited their wealth and got an expensive education, who have succeeded because of the wealth, education and who they know. That our government is the most intelligent people in the land?

You are fully aware that if they were intelligent they wouldn't be in government they would just bung them a few million quid.

[vetran]

Exactly. Middle-class privilege is also a thing in the UK. White privilege is more of a US thing though not solely.


You have that entirely backwards. It's not an excuse or an explanation, it's simply showing demographic-related differences. A lot of this may be classified broadly as "sins of the father" - if your family is disadvantaged for whatever reason (north/south, black/white, rich/poor, etc) then their children are disadvantaged. You need to identify which demographics this is to try and break the cycle of generational deprivation.

White privilege is just open racism as discussed above. Lets have Turban privilege or Ming Dynasty Privilege? AS mentioned North Asians aren't statisticly better at

70 years ago India and Pakistan were formed via the partition because Muslims couldn't live next door to Sikhs & Hindu (& vice versa in some cases). For centuries they had lived next door to each other. Now Sikhs / Hindus perform well in education & employment and Pakistanis noticeably less. Is that race or culture?

[SueEllen]

White privilege is just open racism as discussed above. Lets have Turban privilege or Ming Dynasty Privilege? AS mentioned North Asians aren't statisticly better at

70 years ago India and Pakistan were formed via the partition because Muslims couldn't live next door to Sikhs & Hindu (& vice versa in some cases). For centuries they had lived next door to each other. Now Sikhs / Hindus perform well in education & employment and Pakistanis noticeably less. Is that race or culture?

It isn't as simple at that. The Hindus who are in the UK tend to be middle class while the Pakistani Muslims tend to be working class. Sikhs are a complete mixture. Remember India has a caste system.

[edison]

Being poor/white/green/ polkadot/Somalian/whatever-you-fancy-this-week does not make you educationally disadvantaged. It's parental influence and peer pressure as much as anything does that. If you don't have a work ethic to drive you to achieve, or fear ridicule from the bigger boys if you are good at something non-physical, or believe you can have anything you fancy without effort, then you will fail regardless of where you sit in the demography of the country.

It most certainly can do. White kids in America for example, have about $2000 a year per student more spent on their education compared to black children due to the way that schools are funded through property taxes.

In the UK, research has shown a strong correlation between good schools and higher house prices, especially at secondary level. This can impact children's opportunities and given that a large proportion of people in lower income backgrounds are from ethic minorities, this can have a big impact on later social mobility. Children from more affluent homes go to better schools, get better jobs and buy better homes and so the cycle continues.

[TheDude]

Are you suggesting that the UK government is NOT largely made up of very wealthy individuals who inherited their wealth and got an expensive education, who have succeeded because of the wealth, education and who they know. That our government is the most intelligent people in the land?

Ditto the media.

[TheDude]

White privilege is just open racism

Citation needed.

Could you provide a Daily Mail link to prove UK white people are being ****ed over by immigrants?

[d000hg]

Being poor/white/green/ polkadot/Somalian/whatever-you-fancy-this-week does not make you educationally disadvantaged. It's parental influence and peer pressure as much as anything does that

No, but there's often just a strong correlation. That's what WP is/means. And of course, ethnic children typically have parents and peer groups from the same demographic which means cultural aspects are perpetuated too.

[malvolio]

It most certainly can do. White kids in America for example, have about $2000 a year per student more spent on their education compared to black children due to the way that schools are funded through property taxes.

In the UK, research has shown a strong correlation between good schools and higher house prices, especially at secondary level. This can impact children's opportunities and given that a large proportion of people in lower income backgrounds are from ethic minorities, this can have a big impact on later social mobility. Children from more affluent homes go to better schools, get better jobs and buy better homes and so the cycle continues.

Bad arguments.

I'm not interested in America, whose whole education system is vastly different to our own, in a country that still thinks a racial divide is acceptable.

Good schools exist in better off areas because people pay more to get their kids into the catchment areas for those schools. However there shouldn't be good or bad schools, they only exist because the bad schools, for various reasons, can't attract the best teachers. They are all working to the same curriculum after all, but disinterested pupils will drag the whole school down. So the question is, why are there disinterested pupils?

[Gibbon]

Are you suggesting that the UK government is NOT largely made up of very wealthy individuals who inherited their wealth and got an expensive education, who have succeeded because of the wealth, education and who they know. That our government is the most intelligent people in the land?

YES