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P&O Ferries goes under (or not)

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    #51
    you lot do post a lot of inaccurate drivel.

    Registering ships abroad and ship jobs abroad is rife in the cruise industry and has been for decades (well long before Brexit for the thickies), the ferry companies have just caught up.
    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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      #52
      Originally posted by vetran View Post
      you lot do post a lot of inaccurate drivel.

      Registering ships abroad and ship jobs abroad is rife in the cruise industry and has been for decades (well long before Brexit for the thickies), the ferry companies have just caught up.
      It's to with workers rights on transport between EU countries dumbo, it's all in the news
      "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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        #53
        Originally posted by vetran View Post
        you lot do post a lot of inaccurate drivel.

        Registering ships abroad and ship jobs abroad is rife in the cruise industry and has been for decades (well long before Brexit for the thickies), the ferry companies have just caught up.
        There is a very old saying - "Never trust ship owners"
        "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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          #54
          So apparently the new "agency" staff are going to be working for £2.60 ph. I'm guessing they are not from the EU.

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            #55
            Originally posted by mattster View Post
            So apparently the new "agency" staff are going to be working for £2.60 ph. I'm guessing they are not from the EU.
            I'm also guessing their seamanship skills fall somewhat short of Magellan and Sir Francis Drake rolled into one!
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              #56
              Ferry passengers will be expected to tip the staff the way they do on cruise ships.

              Knowing how Brits view tipping that will make for interesting reading in the Daily Mail comments section…
              "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
              - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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                #57
                Originally posted by mattster View Post
                So apparently the new "agency" staff are going to be working for £2.60 ph. I'm guessing they are not from the EU.
                How very dare you Xenophobe! Our choice of staff is attracting the best (and cheapest) staff from the world.
                Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post

                  I'm also guessing their seamanship skills fall somewhat short of Magellan and Sir Francis Drake rolled into one!

                  Traditionally in these cases the officers were European but as it has been happening for years there are some very good seaman growing up abroad so expect the middle staffers and possibly the highest levels to be non European and quite good.

                  If you had a choice between a latte supping millenial who thinks work is beneath him versus a chap from the Phillipines who went to sea at 14 and thinks 12 hour days 6 days a week are normal who would you choose?
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                  You have to remember China make everyone's technology and India hit the moon first time just because they aren't British they aren't thick!
                  Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by vetran View Post


                    Traditionally in these cases the officers were European but as it has been happening for years there are some very good seaman growing up abroad so expect the middle staffers and possibly the highest levels to be non European and quite good.

                    If you had a choice between a latte supping millenial who thinks work is beneath him versus a chap from the Phillipines who went to sea at 14 and thinks 12 hour days 6 days a week are normal who would you choose?
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                    You have to remember China make everyone's technology and India hit the moon first time just because they aren't British they aren't thick!
                    Lots of stereotyping there.

                    Guess you have been reading - Britannia Unchained: Global Lessons for Growth and Prosperity.

                    Oddly the even the right of centre media thought it was tulip. Then again they probably all baby boomers....
                    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                      #60
                      This isn't about whether one group of developing world employees are better or not than the UK ones they are replacing. It's about the fact that a company has just sacked 800 UK workers, presumably on at least half reasonable wages, and replaced them with people earning £2.60 an hour. Yes, there are some vagaries of maritime law that apparently mean this is possible within the law, but it is notable that not a single EU staff member was sacked whilst the entire UK work force was let go. Why is that, does anybody know? (genuine question, btw). Is this a Brexit win (for business) or would this have been possible when we were still in the EU? It is my view that if your business can only survive when paying 1/4 of the minimum wage to its workers that you don't have a viable business in the UK.

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