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P&O Ferries goes under (or not)

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    #21
    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    Do explain how it has anything to do with Brexit or are you making it up as usual?

    Do you know how few ships are registered in the UK and how few actually have a predominantly British crew? This has been standard for decades. Sack the crew and hire from low cost countries is standard.
    Ah, OK, nothing to do with it...
    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a4045786.html
    …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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      #22
      Wow.

      A Dutch captain has told P & O that he's not allowing anyone on his ship including the police. Well he is the boss!

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cked-zoom.html

      The captain of a giant P&O ferry was hailed a hero today for drawing up his gangplanks and refusing to allow police or new crewmen to board his vessel.

      The captain of the Pride of Hull, understood to be Eugene Fabier from The Netherlands, sealed himself and his crew inside the ferry just hours after P&0 announced mass redundancies.

      It is understood that he left his ship and went to speak to P&O officials onshore about the ongoing stand-off on the Pride of Hull.

      Earlier today, the company sacked 800 employees over a Zoom call.


      The Pride of Hull normally carries a crew of 141 people aboard and is one of the biggest ferries in Europe.

      It makes regular crossings between Hull and the Dutch port of Rotterdam.

      Hull's Labour MP Karl Turner said the captain had taken matters into his own hands and was now operating under maritime law to prevent anyone coming aboard.

      He added that those on the ship had enough food supplies to last 'as long as it takes' to resolve the dispute.

      He said: 'I'm told by Gaz Jackson, who is the RMT official who is sitting in on the ship, he's effectively locked in with the ship and the crew.

      'He's saying the captain is refusing to allow the police to enter the ship. Members have said to me that the vessel has got enough supplies to feed the crew for as long as it takes.

      'As far as I understand in maritime law, even though that vessel is in a port, that captain is still entitled under maritime law to refuse any person onto his vessel.'
      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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        #23
        Originally posted by WTFH View Post
        hmm

        The Rail, Maritime and Transport union has previously described P&O's reflagging of UK ships as "pure opportunism", claiming the firm's "long-term aim has always been to switch the UK fleet to a tax haven register".
        Watch their lips move...
        Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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          #24
          Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
          Wow.

          A Dutch captain has told P & O that he's not allowing anyone on his ship including the police. Well he is the boss!

          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cked-zoom.html

          The captain of a giant P&O ferry was hailed a hero today for drawing up his gangplanks and refusing to allow police or new crewmen to board his vessel.

          The captain of the Pride of Hull, understood to be Eugene Fabier from The Netherlands, sealed himself and his crew inside the ferry just hours after P&0 announced mass redundancies.

          It is understood that he left his ship and went to speak to P&O officials onshore about the ongoing stand-off on the Pride of Hull.

          Earlier today, the company sacked 800 employees over a Zoom call.


          The Pride of Hull normally carries a crew of 141 people aboard and is one of the biggest ferries in Europe.

          It makes regular crossings between Hull and the Dutch port of Rotterdam.

          Hull's Labour MP Karl Turner said the captain had taken matters into his own hands and was now operating under maritime law to prevent anyone coming aboard.

          He added that those on the ship had enough food supplies to last 'as long as it takes' to resolve the dispute.

          He said: 'I'm told by Gaz Jackson, who is the RMT official who is sitting in on the ship, he's effectively locked in with the ship and the crew.

          'He's saying the captain is refusing to allow the police to enter the ship. Members have said to me that the vessel has got enough supplies to feed the crew for as long as it takes.

          'As far as I understand in maritime law, even though that vessel is in a port, that captain is still entitled under maritime law to refuse any person onto his vessel.'
          haha couldn't happen to a nicer bunch.
          Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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            #25
            Aren't agency staff more expensive or are the owners looking to offshore the wages and hire imported slaves. I like the Pride of Hulls response

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              #26
              Originally posted by tazdevil View Post
              Aren't agency staff more expensive or are the owners looking to offshore the wages and hire imported slaves. I like the Pride of Hulls response
              As mentioned most commercial seamen are from places like the Philippines where employment conditions and wages are massively below the UKs.
              Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                #27
                Originally posted by WTFH View Post
                My ref to the NI Protocol (for those who are unaware) is due to P&O running two of the main ferry routes to Northern Ireland from England/Scotland.
                Maybe Boris's idea of a bridge to Northern Ireland wasn't so bonkers after all!
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by vetran View Post
                  hmm
                  You find a quote from a union to suit you, I find a quote from the company to verify their reason:

                  A spokesman said: "In advance of Britain leaving the European Union on March 29 2019, we undertook a review of the flag status of our ships on the English Channel.
                  …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post

                    Oh, that part is interesting. The nominal reason they're giving is the 100m loss suffered in the last financial year (), but I wasn't aware of the sanctions angle...
                    There isn't one - they are owned by DP World, which in turn is owned by the Dubai govt investment fund.
                    His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by vetran View Post

                      As mentioned most commercial seamen are from places like the Philippines where employment conditions and wages are massively below the UKs.
                      That's why on cruises you are expected to tip and they have minimum tips for "guests".
                      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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