DOOM: Christmas

[OwlHoot]

Waitrose lorry drivers are earning more than lawyers and architects as salaries soar above £53,000 amid national shortage

The Mail mentioned this April's IR35 Tax changes as one cause for the shortage but did not going into details:

"Lower wages, the closure of a tax loophole for drivers and Brexit complications around hiring have all contributed to the crisis, along with an ageing workforce and the coronavirus pandemic, which has made it more difficult to train new drivers."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-shortage.html

To its credit, the Fail online did mention IR5 explicitly in another article on this.

Also, in a couple of their articles I've commented, FWIW, that the shortage is nothing to do with Brexit or Covid but is entirely down to IR35 (and the comments gained dozens of likes, so people are aware of IR35!). For all its faults, the Mail Online has millions of readers, so it's worth getting the message out as best one can.

[AtW]

Yes because one will die of starvation if turkeys and pigs in blankets (and Turkish delight) are unavailable over the 'festive' season.

Turkish delights is my red line

[vetran]

Turkish delights is my red line

I thought it was the Red Army that you objected to?

[vetran]

To its credit, the Fail online did mention IR5 explicitly in another article on this.

Also, in a couple of their articles I've commented, FWIW, that the shortage is nothing to do with Brexit or Covid but is entirely down to IR35 (and the comments gained dozens of likes, so people are aware of IR35!). For all its faults, the Mail Online has millions of readers, so it's worth getting the message out as best one can.

Oh it had something to do with Brexit when we stopped abusing Eastern European drivers and the rest of Europe had a shortage they went home or to drive in Germany etc. Brexit did free people from low paid wages which is why the slavers are sad.

[Whorty]

Bus drivers in central London are on £12 an hour. (you need extra licences for that).

Didn't know that .... always assumed they got a similar ridiculous salary to tube drivers.

Every day is a school day!

[ladymuck]

Didn't know that .... always assumed they got a similar ridiculous salary to tube drivers.

Every day is a school day!

£26 - 31k according to Go-Ahead, who are one of the largest service providers:

https://careers-goaheadlondon.icims....&jun1offset=60

[vetran]

£26 - 31k according to Go-Ahead, who are one of the largest service providers:

https://careers-goaheadlondon.icims....&jun1offset=60

Starting salaries of £500 per week (£26,000 per annum for drivers starting on our entry grade) rising to over £31,000 per annum with service related increases.

(500/40)=£12.50 oh its gone up! Still under average UK wage with a full PCV on unsociable shifts.

And after years of service its a massive £14.90 luckily they offer training at a lower wage.

We have no car parking at our garages, so you must be able to demonstrate your ability to commute by public transport to your requested location, bearing in mind that the job involves working shifts when public transport can be limited at certain times of the day.

nice

Luckily they offer an apprenticeship that is so well paid they don't tell you how much just in case they get swamped.

https://careers-goaheadlondon.icims....&jun1offset=60

[ladymuck]

(500/40)=£12.50 oh its gone up! Still under average UK wage with a full PCV on unsociable shifts.

And after years of service its a massive £14.90 luckily they offer training at a lower wage.



nice

Luckily they offer an apprenticeship that is so well paid they don't tell you how much just in case they get swamped.

https://careers-goaheadlondon.icims....&jun1offset=60

I know, I was backing you up as Whorty was surprised

[vetran]

I know, I was backing you up as Whorty was surprised

Ta, I was just doing the sums so checking I was correct. It wasn't meant to appear a complaint.

I loved the please spend all your money on car parks when you do early / late shifts because we sold all our car parking spaces.

[SueEllen]

(500/40)=£12.50 oh its gone up! Still under average UK wage with a full PCV on unsociable shifts.

And after years of service its a massive £14.90 luckily they offer training at a lower wage.



nice

Luckily they offer an apprenticeship that is so well paid they don't tell you how much just in case they get swamped.

https://careers-goaheadlondon.icims....&jun1offset=60

Seems common with apprenticeships - https://apply.abellio.com/vacancies/...nticeship/?d=3


You can find them all on here - https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/buses/who-runs-your-bus