Coming out as transracial

[ladymuck]

One set of our relatives have a transgender child F->M they found it difficult about changing to a more masculine after 20+ years they are really struggling with calling their daughter as Him. Their child and his partner are quite hard on them if they slip up.

That's a shame. When you've known and raised someone as one gender and they've transitioned, there's going to be slip ups and mistakes made. If the parents are supportive of the change then you'd hope for some understanding when they make a mistake. You can't undo 20 years of 'her' quickly no matter how good your intentions.

[northernladuk]

why not for an online forum? who would talk to people like this face to face?

I formulate & test opinions on here, I would probably never say such things to people's faces.

Because it's extremely difficult to point a fact or an opinion without immediately getting shot down and called names when it may even not be my opinion but still to be considered. The fact I stated it was a devils advocate point and mentioned well known people in this area and the immediate response to check my privilege is a good example. Not really a platform for difficult and possibly controversial discussion.

[northernladuk]

That's a shame. When you've known and raised someone as one gender and they've transitioned, there's going to be slip ups and mistakes made. If the parents are supportive of the change then you'd hope for some understanding when they make a mistake. You can't undo 20 years of 'her' quickly no matter how good your intentions.

It's an interesting point and one lost most of the time but the older set that has that decades of history to change surely are the people that putting exceptional effort in to changing. The left don't appreciate that people like this are putting more effort in to trying to be inclusive than anyone else. A 20 something person changing their gender and then shouting a lot think they are working towards inclusion. A 50 year old bloke (for example as they are probably the worst at it) that is now quite happy to ignore race, accept whatever gender you are but is terrified of making a mistake has put way more effort towards inclusivity etc than anyone else surely?

[vetran]

Unless you are a Korean or other person from East Asian, particularly someone who is non-binary, as then you can call them out as having white privilege for saying they are transracial using your own story...

Because it's extremely difficult to point a fact or an opinion without immediately getting shot down and called names when it may even not be my opinion but still to be considered. The fact I stated it was a devils advocate point and mentioned well known people in this area and the immediate response to check my privilege is a good example. Not really a platform for difficult and possibly controversial discussion.

hey I listen to the ones whose opinion I respect and mock the name callers. I occasionally post T-shirts for some people.

The usual name callers are normally immune to logic.

If I offend one of the name callers I have nothing invested in them. So for me its perfect.

I frequently check if my opinion makes sense and importantly the best way to deliver it on here before sharing it. People can easily only hear a part of what I say and then be offended because I never thought that part was important.

[SueEllen]

Because it's extremely difficult to point a fact or an opinion without immediately getting shot down and called names when it may even not be my opinion but still to be considered. The fact I stated it was a devils advocate point and mentioned well known people in this area and the immediate response to check my privilege is a good example. Not really a platform for difficult and possibly controversial discussion.

I actually said that on purpose because those are the responses I've seen elsewhere to such arguments.

[northernladuk]

I actually said that on purpose because those are the responses I've seen elsewhere to such arguments.

Ahhhh righto. Ok got you.

[SueEllen]

Some Koreans views on them....

[d000hg]

That's a shame. When you've known and raised someone as one gender and they've transitioned, there's going to be slip ups and mistakes made. If the parents are supportive of the change then you'd hope for some understanding when they make a mistake. You can't undo 20 years of 'her' quickly no matter how good your intentions.

In my experience people are happy to accept genuine mistakes but I suppose as their parent your support and acceptance is probably the most important/craved. And everyone has a different level of how often you get it wrong before they decide you're not really trying, that maybe you are just 'indulging' rather than supporting.

[NotAllThere]

identifying as a sex god is still working for me!

Yeah, pansexual is basically newfangled talk for 'I'll do anything'

Wait. Wasn't Pan a sex god?

[NotAllThere]

Fail.

They are non-binary so they are neither he or she.

Fail. They are he, she, it, zgzgzg, they and braindead.