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    #71
    "Lorry driver shortage: UK government and retailers in emergency talks

    Defra looks for solutions as Covid and Brexit problems threaten to leave gaps on supermarket shelves

    The UK government has held emergency talks with retailers, logistics groups and wholesalers as a shortage of lorry drivers threatens to leave gaps on supermarket shelves.

    Officials from the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) are understood to have discussed potential solutions, including relaxing restrictions on drivers’ working hours and increasing capacity for HGV driving tests and training to help bring in new local drivers.

    Defra is also considering putting drivers on the official shortage occupation list to help make it easier to bring in workers from overseas."

    https://www.theguardian.com/business...s-covid-brexit

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      #72
      Originally posted by AtW View Post
      "Lorry driver shortage: UK government and retailers in emergency talks

      Defra looks for solutions as Covid and Brexit problems threaten to leave gaps on supermarket shelves

      The UK government has held emergency talks with retailers, logistics groups and wholesalers as a shortage of lorry drivers threatens to leave gaps on supermarket shelves.

      Officials from the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) are understood to have discussed potential solutions, including relaxing restrictions on drivers’ working hours and increasing capacity for HGV driving tests and training to help bring in new local drivers.

      Defra is also considering putting drivers on the official shortage occupation list to help make it easier to bring in workers from overseas."

      https://www.theguardian.com/business...s-covid-brexit
      Order from amazon fresh, someone will deliver it to you door with a car from a local warehouse. Easier on the logistics.
      The low end supermakets have ever decreasing standards, maybe this would teach them a lesson.

      puts money in Bezo’s pocket but that is something I can live with

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        #73
        Originally posted by GigiBronz View Post
        Order from amazon fresh, someone will deliver it to you door with a car from a local warehouse. Easier on the logistics.
        Indeed, why should the Govt concern itself with logistics when people can just order from Amazon Fresh?



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          #74
          Originally posted by AtW View Post
          "Lorry driver shortage: UK government and retailers in emergency talks

          Defra looks for solutions as Covid and Brexit problems threaten to leave gaps on supermarket shelves

          The UK government has held emergency talks with retailers, logistics groups and wholesalers as a shortage of lorry drivers threatens to leave gaps on supermarket shelves.

          Officials from the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) are understood to have discussed potential solutions, including relaxing restrictions on drivers’ working hours and increasing capacity for HGV driving tests and training to help bring in new local drivers.

          Defra is also considering putting drivers on the official shortage occupation list to help make it easier to bring in workers from overseas."

          https://www.theguardian.com/business...s-covid-brexit
          So temporary relaxation of worker hours and increasing training. seems reasonable, if only the hauliers had planned earlier.

          So long as the wages are set at higher rate tax level to reflect the skill shortage I'm fine with it going on the shortage list.

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            #75
            Originally posted by AtW View Post

            Indeed, why should the Govt concern itself with logistics when people can just order from Amazon Fresh?


            He has a point logistics is changing. Don't write off Amazon they are clever enough to aggregate and supply multiple customers as a delivery agent.

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              #76
              Originally posted by AtW View Post

              Indeed, why should the Govt concern itself with logistics when people can just order from Amazon Fresh?
              You don’t see amazon companining. It’s only the companies that have been making a good living from selling people products(self labelled) and just the bottom of the barrel products. And now they can’t make the profits they previously could.
              wasn’t this the brexit prerogative? They’ll just increase wages and everything will be fine?

              so let’s just all order from amazon fresh where there is still a decent choice of products and quality and leave the rest of them to adapt.

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                #77
                How did we get from there being more deaths than births to Amazon logistics?

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by ladymuck View Post
                  How did we get from there being more deaths than births to Amazon logistics?

                  The argument is because our population is ageing and not growing organically we should open the immigration floodgates for cheap labour so we can continue abusing it the same old way rather than look at how we should flourish with the new demographic.

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                    #79
                    Once Ubers are driverless, deliveries automated and retail work at a minimum ( give it 5-10 years ) then you are talking about whole swathes of the working population unable to do anything. If you have a below average intelligence what else is there to do?

                    Rather than a core group of the producing population paying high tax to support these minions, I suspect the upper 20% of the population will angle for tax reductions and hire them in service. I think the 20th century will be looked on as unusual and that we are heading back to where we were 100 years ago with punters like myself having 2 or 3 staff hanging about the house.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                      Once Ubers are driverless, deliveries automated and retail work at a minimum ( give it 5-10 years ) then you are talking about whole swathes of the working population unable to do anything. If you have a below average intelligence what else is there to do?

                      Rather than a core group of the producing population paying high tax to support these minions, I suspect the upper 20% of the population will angle for tax reductions and hire them in service. I think the 20th century will be looked on as unusual and that we are heading back to where we were 100 years ago with punters like myself having 2 or 3 staff hanging about the house.
                      Actually history has shown that as business evolves opportunities grow if you look for them positively. Plenty of people without academic skills or achievements are emotionally or creatively intelligent in a way many geniuses would admire or aspire to if they bothered to look. Look at the barrow boy invasion of the city previously the preserve of public school boys.

                      https://jamesaconrad.com/TK/famous-s...nce-degree.htm

                      Why have staff when you can have robots?

                      Your maid won't want to re-enact pornhub with you.



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