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Foreign nurses and doctors no longer welcome.
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Originally posted by minestrone View PostIt's something mental like 80% of doctors that get struck off are foreign. 5 times higher than UK trained.
We should be insisting on UK trained. Third rate is accurate.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-patients.html
72% of struck off doctors are from overseas: Cases include an Indian GP who ran an immigration scam and a Malaysian medic who secretly filmed female patients- Nearly three-quarters of doctors struck off the medical register are foreign
- Medics trained overseas have been involved in series of shocking blunders
- News comes as health bosses want to lure 400 trainee GPs here from India
Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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Originally posted by mattster View Post
Being told that you are not wanted, and that the organisation that you work for is actively working to remove you could be upsetting to some.
I think you should find another cause to weep over.Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.Comment
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As ever, there is a little more nuance to it than the Mail or Express would have you believe, although the headline figure is correct. It was interesting enough to warrant a search tho, and this paper is quite interesting.
If you can't be arsed to read that, then the bullet points are that the numbers are very small - the order of a hundred or so a year out of > 100,000. Most of those are not for clinical reasons, and many of them are for dishonesty (esp about qualifications). It would make sense that it is far easier to get away with lies about experience/qualifications if you are not UK trained, so to be expected really. The problem here seems more about the lack of care taken during the recruitment process than a necessarily lower standard of training, although that is also possible I'm sure in some countries - again, better recruitment practices should be able to sort that issue. Tarring all "forrins" on the basis of that particular Daily Mail headline is ludicrous.Comment
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Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
Nobody is saying that the current foreign born NHS staff are unwanted and nobody is actively working to remove them. We are simply trying to remove the future dependency on foreign born staff.
I think you should find another cause to weep over.Comment
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Originally posted by mattster View PostAs ever, there is a little more nuance to it than the Mail or Express would have you believe, although the headline figure is correct. It was interesting enough to warrant a search tho, and this paper is quite interesting.
If you can't be arsed to read that, then the bullet points are that the numbers are very small - the order of a hundred or so a year out of > 100,000. Most of those are not for clinical reasons, and many of them are for dishonesty (esp about qualifications). It would make sense that it is far easier to get away with lies about experience/qualifications if you are not UK trained, so to be expected really. The problem here seems more about the lack of care taken during the recruitment process than a necessarily lower standard of training, although that is also possible I'm sure in some countries - again, better recruitment practices should be able to sort that issue. Tarring all "forrins" on the basis of that particular Daily Mail headline is ludicrous.
Of those 330 (72 per cent) trained abroad, and 130 in the UK (28 per cent). Foreign-trained doctors now make up a third of NHS doctors.
As above I believe most foreign trained doctors are competent and wiling.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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Foreign health workers are invaluable to the NHS.
Not having to rely on them would be a good thing.
I don't see a contradiction in those two statements.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by mattster View Post
No weeping here, but worth mentioning that I am under the care (and occasionally lucky enough to see) a consultant at one of the London teaching hospitals who is a world reknowned expert in his field. He also happens to be Spanish. In any other industry the government would be talking about how to attract global talent to the UK, not actively trying to repel it.
Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by mattster View Post
Being told that you are not wanted, and that the organisation that you work for is actively working to remove you could be upsetting to some.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Having spent far too long in my local university hospital I doubt we could train up nurses as good as the Filipino ones. For attitude and competency they take some beating, now if we could level up fine, but otherwise I will always be glad to have one of them assigned to me.But I discovered nothing else but depraved, excessive superstition. Pliny the youngerComment
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