Why Millennials Are Leaving Six-Figure Tech Jobs

[d000hg]

Interesting, as all of my peers in my social circle did this. We did all buy our own places (usually very small flat in less smart part of town) before we reached 30, but we lived in some pretty ropey places in order to save enough money. Expectations seemed to be higher these days, that you can buy a big house in the best part of town as your first property. And earn big bucks, working only 35 hours a week, for a charity who are making the world a much better place

Is your (and peergroup) background white or blue collar? Obviously some people have slogged their guts out and still do, but definitely not what I've heard as the norm since the days when miners used to go to nightschool after a 12hr shift to 'better themselves'.

I don't really hear young people expecting to buy a big house in the best area either, are you sure you're not being a grumpy old man Those I know who are now 30ish in the big cities and bought in the last few years typically bought flats or similar - often in converted houses turned into several flats. Some are now on their 2nd place.

[d000hg]

But who buys a 3-4 bed house as their first property? This is the problem. My first place was a flat, that needed gutting. I had no furniture - my 2 'chairs' were a bean bag and my weight training bench. The tv (2nd hand, ex rental) was on the floor. My bed was that left for me by the seller.

Think that depends where you are. Round here, most houses are 3-bed, virtually no flats at all. And of course today's 3-bed house is probably a 2-up-2-down they split the bedroom into 2 little shoe-boxes

[vetran]

The issue isn't directly the number of houses. The issue is space to build houses in the parts of the country where people want to live (and, to some extent, where the jobs are).

possibly but government figures suggest we are at least a million dwellings short.

House building has not kept up with population growth.

SE is desperately short of houses.

NE not so much you can buy a huge house in a lovely little village in Yorkshire for £400k or a 3 bed house in a manky area in East Riding for £85K.

Jobs of course aren't so distributed but we have an opportunity to fix that as the lockdown eases.

However unless you are willing to move to Wales and claim benefits we need more houses in the SE.

[vetran]

Is your (and peergroup) background white or blue collar? Obviously some people have slogged their guts out and still do, but definitely not what I've heard as the norm since the days when miners used to go to nightschool after a 12hr shift to 'better themselves'.

I don't really hear young people expecting to buy a big house in the best area either, are you sure you're not being a grumpy old man Those I know who are now 30ish in the big cities and bought in the last few years typically bought flats or similar - often in converted houses turned into several flats. Some are now on their 2nd place.

Plenty of professional couples round here sleeping on the couch so the kids can sleep in the single bedroom of the flat they are mortgaged to the hilt to buy.

The market has changed flats aren't 3 times average wages they are 10-30 times.

[Fraidycat]

Don't blame the methodology for the implementation.

The methodology is tulip if it doesn't take in account how it will be abused in the real world.

In the real world many companies and managers will take parts of agile and use them to micro manage and pile pressure onto developers.

In Scrum just calling them 'Sprints' implies the developers should be working flat out and be out of breath at the end of every two week period!

[_V_]

My first property after leaving home, was a mortgaged "studio flat", so zero bedrooms. The bed was in the one main room, and so was the sofa and the tiny kitchen. There was no central heating, just a single gas fire. The only other room was a toilet and shower.

That was all I could afford on my permie salary, and that was as a couple both working full time. This was in the late 80's I think, just before it all crashed and burned into huge negative equity.

Suck it up snowflakes!

[Paralytic]

The methodology is tulip if it doesn't take in account how it will be abused in the real world.

In the real world many companies and managers will take parts of agile and use them to micro manage and pile pressure onto developers.

In Scrum just calling them 'Sprints' implies the developers should be working flat out and be out of breath at the end of every two week period!

You don't get it, do you? If clients are doing that, they're not doing Scrum - they're just doing their own thing. They can call it what they want - Waterfall, Wagile, Waterscrum, Scrumfall or any of the myriad terms people use, but it's not Scrum.

As a supplier, you should be able to tell them that. If you feel you can't, then you're probably being (and being allowed to be) treated like an employee. In that case, change your employer, or change your employer.

[Fraidycat]

You don't get it, do you? If clients are doing that, they're not doing Scrum - they're just doing their own thing. They can call it what they want - Waterfall, Wagile, Waterscrum, Scrumfall or any of the myriad terms people use, but it's not Scrum.

As a supplier, you should be able to tell them that. If you feel you can't, then you're probably being (and being allowed to be) treated like an employee. In that case, change your employer, or change your employer.

Every client who attempts to do scrum, does it differently. There is no one size fits all.

As a supplier i dont give a tulip if they get it wrong, as a contractor i get paid well. I do whatever makes the client happy as long as my fat invoices get paid. They wont listen to me anyway even if i tried.

It is the lower paid younger permies who are getting burnt out (the topic of this thread). Sweat shop conditions, constant high pressure work coupled with low pay.

[vetran]

The methodology is tulip if it doesn't take in account how it will be abused in the real world.

In the real world many companies and managers will take parts of agile and use them to micro manage and pile pressure onto developers.

In Scrum just calling them 'Sprints' implies the developers should be working flat out and be out of breath at the end of every two week period!

Too true our lot feel that using agile means they can fail to document requirements or do any project stuff then try to lump it all on IT. They do like to talk a lot and assure anyone who listens about how easy it will be.

[LondonManc]

We don't need more houses really. What we need is HMG to stop continually propping up the housing market.

There needs to be a wholesale correction in the price of a home but because prices are hyper inflated, it would put millions into negative equity so they have to keep topping up the air in the bubble.

By not building more affordable houses, HMG are propping up the housing market. Problem for house builders is that there is little profit in affordable housing. One solution is to create a government run construction division that specialises in green, affordable houses that are all the same size and design. May look boring but beggars can't be choosers. Make them so that they can be anything from standalone detached to a full run of town houses slotted next to each other. Integrate ethernet cabling etc so that they if people move, they know what they're getting wherever they go. 2, 3 and 4 bedroom versions. Make it so. Not that a Tory government would do such a thing because it's for the people or that Labour would do it because it's far too entrepreneurial but hey-ho.