Need a rant: not got a contract due to positive discrimination

[Lance]

Example 2: A London Borough employs a Deaf African Emigrant non English speaking in a social services role. The council had to employ and full time sign language translator to go around with her and to do all her computer inputs and letter typing. All in the name of diversity.

In the name of diversity? Or because providing jobs to people willing to work is a desirable thing?

Either we embrace people not working and pay them for it. Or we help them work despite their disabilities. Can't have it both ways.

[Paddy]

In the name of diversity? Or because providing jobs to people willing to work is a desirable thing?

Either we embrace people not working and pay them for it. Or we help them work despite their disabilities. Can't have it both ways.

Not the point. Applicants should be fit for purpose. If their job is to interact with the public then they should be capable of doing so not to the exclusion of others.

[Gibbon]

In the name of diversity? Or because providing jobs to people willing to work is a desirable thing?

Either we embrace people not working and pay them for it. Or we help them work despite their disabilities. Can't have it both ways.

I agree, but lack of English is not a disability, would a able bodied person with no English get the job? Thing is if she could read and write English she could interact with the majority of her case load via a tablet etc, a sign translator only for those who can't get back. Because its meant to be reasonable adjustment.

[Paralytic]

I agree, but lack of English is not a disability

Give it a year or so - i'm sure someone will manage to win a court case, proving otherwise.

[northernladuk]

I agree, but lack of English is not a disability, would a able bodied person with no English get the job? Thing is if she could read and write English she could interact with the majority of her case load via a tablet etc, a sign translator only for those who can't get back. Because its meant to be reasonable adjustment.

And that's fair but are there not a few jobs require excellent spoken English as a key part of the role. Could be anything from doctors to first line call handlers. Surely a level of poor english or ability to communicate has to count against you in roles such as that as it's a key aspect of the job? I'm talking bad English that's difficult to understand or is not crystal clear so potentially not being able to achieve the outcome of the interaction? English as a second language on the whole isn't a problem just the odd case for the odd role. I'm sure we've all come across it.

Surely in cases such as this you aren't discriminating against minorities or less able people if that level of English is the reason for a rejection? It's a blocker that would apply to anyone, including txt spkrs and massivly thick UK accents? I'm guessing no one in this day and age would be in their right minds would say no for the fear of reprisal though?

[northernladuk]

Turned down as I'm not a Welsh speaker.

I'm a proud Welshman, got the tattoo and everything

In English?

[SueEllen]

In English?

[Whorty]

In English?

[Paddy]

Lamborghini isn't Welsh