Horizon IT Scandal: Postmasters await justice today

[cojak]

An absolute fecking scandal from an organisaton that was incompetent and cruel.

And no IT Director or Programme Manager or PO Board member will even be put in front of a committee to answer for it.

Corporate responsibility or accountability my arse, there's no such thing...

Post Office scandal: Postmasters await Appeal Court ruling - BBC News

[Gibbon]

An absolute fecking scandal from an organisaton that was incompetent and cruel.

And no IT Director or Programme Manager or PO Board member will even be put in front of a committee to answer for it.

Corporate responsibility or accountability my arse, there's no such thing...

Post Office scandal: Postmasters await Appeal Court ruling - BBC News

Read some of this over last few years, quite unbelievable. If it wasn't so awful it would be like that Little Britain sketch where "computer says no", but we're not booking holidays it wrecked honest peoples lives.

[mattster]

Read some of this over last few years, quite unbelievable. If it wasn't so awful it would be like that Little Britain sketch where "computer says no", but we're not booking holidays it wrecked honest peoples lives.

Yeah, it is an incredible story really, and the PO has behaved appallingly throughtout. The amount of compensation offered to the victims has been derisory (£8k for a prison sentence and ruined life??), and in sum significantly less than the PO spent on defending this case in the courts. These poor people should be getting millions each, and people in either the PO or Fujitsu should be going to prison.

[Whorty]

One of my best friends was caught up in this. He and his wife ran a PO in Cornwall. Fortunately he's an accountant specialising in finance systems and could prove to the PO that it was the system at fault (he used to work with me in a Finance Systems team in a big bank). He was lucky he had the background and skills to prove his innocence.

For me it's not just the PO went after these individuals with little proof of guilt, but there was a trend here across multiple unconnected people and the management of PO couldn't, or wouldn't, join the dots.

Those who should do time, and lose their livelihoods, are those at the top of the PO and Fujitsu who caused this grief on these poor people.

[mattster]

For me it's not just the PO went after these individuals with little proof of guilt, but there was a trend here across multiple unconnected people and the management of PO couldn't, or wouldn't, join the dots.

I've wondered about this myself. The numbers that were caught up in this seem huge - nearly a thousand Post Offices, I think, perhaps more. It would be interesting to know what sort of fraud numbers there were before this new system was introduced, and how that compares to what they thought was happening afterwards. Did they just think this new system was revealing huge amounts of previously unnoticed fraud? Did anyone in the PO actually stop and think that perhaps the new system was at fault, and half of their post masters weren't actually criminal?

[Eirikur]

Was at Fujitsu for just over a year, a programme (which also included changes to horizon) was a total trainwreck, such a trainwreck it made all consumer radio and tv shows. I predicted the disaster, no one wanted to listen, so I jumped ship (and a few others with me) before the tulip hit the fan

[NotAllThere]

significantly less than the PO spent on defending this case in the courts.

Not just defending, but appealing, trying to get the judge changed - anything they could to spin it out. Absolute disgrace.

Private Eye's podcast is worth a listen for the despicable details.

[Whorty]

Not just defending, but appealing, trying to get the judge changed - anything they could to spin it out. Absolute disgrace.

Private Eye's podcast is worth a listen for the despicable details.

It beggars belief that they can ruin so many innocent people's lives and not face any consequences.

[BlasterBates]

The Post Office is guilty, they should all get together and sue the Post Office out of existence.

[ladymuck]

The Post Office is guilty, they should all get together and sue the Post Office out of existence.

Whilst I understand the sentiment, there are a lot of good people in the PO and, with its charter of having to deliver to ALL parts of the UK and not just the profitable bits, it serves a vital service.

Heads should most definitely roll for this debacle though. Several layers of management need to go, preferably to prison.