Team Meghan or Team Palace ?

[vetran]

Riiight - all and sundry. Who rattled your cage? I teased vetran once about being bigotted and not very bright, but I don't think he's particularly racist.

I bow to your greater expertise!

[NotAllThere]

[SueEllen]

I bow to your greater expertise!

NAT's probably pointing out that there are less complaints about you than some other posters.

[vetran]

Excellent! I agree with Br14:

[vetran]

NAT's probably pointing out that there are less complaints about you than some other posters.

OK quick thought experiment what if Harry had married Britney Spears? Which of the accusations would have changed? I can only think of 2 base accusations that might.

Apart from a inferred background of racism in her speech only 2/3 I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) were actually directly attributed to racism.

1. Archie won't be a prince because he isn't white.
2. Because Archie won't be a Prince we wont get protection.
3. Someone who we wont identify in the Royal Family asked what shade the baby will be.

1 & 2 have been proven to be based wholly on law not racism.

3 I suspect the incident is known and it was more of a gauche remark than actual racism. Its also over a year old and a single incident. I am sure racist things have been said to Meghan mainly by the public but I would be amazed if Phil the Gaffe had not put his foot in it and indeed a few others as they are not the most diverse family. But I'm sure Harry has had the Ginger jokes.

[SueEllen]

OK quick thought experiment what if Harry had married Britney Spears? Which of the accusations would have changed? I can only think of 2 base accusations that might.

Apart from a inferred background of racism in her speech only 2/3 I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) were actually directly attributed to racism.

1. Archie won't be a prince because he isn't white.
2. Because Archie won't be a Prince we wont get protection.
3. Someone who we wont identify in the Royal Family asked what shade the baby will be.

1 & 2 have been proven to be based wholly on law not racism.

3 I suspect the incident is known and it was more of a gauche remark than actual racism. Its also over a year old and a single incident. I am sure racist things have been said to Meghan mainly by the public but I would be amazed if Phil the Gaffe had not put his foot in it and indeed a few others as they are not the most diverse family. But I'm sure Harry has had the Ginger jokes.

The last remark is racism. You don't raise "concerns" about what skin colour of an unborn child who isn't white to the parents.

Harry made it clear it wasn't his grandfather, Prince Philip, and it was more than once.

[vetran]

The last remark is racism. You don't raise "concerns" about what skin colour of an unborn child who isn't white to the parents.

Harry made it clear it wasn't his grandfather, Prince Philip, and it was more than once.

So of all the accusations this is the only racist part?

[saptastic]

So of all the accusations this is the only racist part?

Yes from what I could tell you are right:

That is the issue when you break it down to facts - there was one flawed comment made by a member of the family.
Of which we don't know any context.

And Meghan unfortunately found it very difficult especially as a new mum.

But much of the undertone or interpretation of this interview on social media etc was and is generally about victimisation and race.
Which the facts just do not back up. Simple.

They wanted and wanted and didn't get their own way in the end and they feel that they have been treated badly so have lashed out.

[saptastic]

Reposting her list of gripes and most are personal/family issues but the whole interview was framed as a victim.

- my dad let me down (and I wont forgive him)
- all my other family members have let me down (except my mum)
- my husbands family let me down
- Kate made me cry.........once
- a relative of my husband made an completely inappropriate comment once (race element)
- the taxpayer wont pay £20m a year for security in Los Angeles
- No one taught me how to be a royal
- Living in lockdown is similar to my royal lifestyle
- My dad in law has stopped paying all our bills
- The palace PR and HR were all against me
- the £30m wedding was for other people
- they said Archie would have no security
- Tabloids are cruel (agreed!) but I dont read them anyway

[vetran]

Reposting her list of gripes and most are personal/family issues but the whole interview was framed as a victim.

- my dad let me down (and I wont forgive him)
- all my other family members have let me down (except my mum)
- my husbands family let me down
- Kate made me cry.........once
- a relative of my husband made an completely inappropriate comment once (race element)
- the taxpayer wont pay £20m a year for security in Los Angeles
- No one taught me how to be a royal
- Living in lockdown is similar to my royal lifestyle
- My dad in law has stopped paying all our bills
- The palace PR and HR were all against me
- the £30m wedding was for other people
- they said Archie would have no security
- Tabloids are cruel (agreed!) but I dont read them anyway

You missed they took my passport and driving licence off me. Border control is a bit rubbish she flew ~13 times around the world on holiday without a passport.