This seems a good explanation why our death rate is so high.

[vetran]

Understanding excess mortality: comparing COVID-19’s impact in the UK to other European countries | The Health Foundation

Too late, too old and too ill.

In order to learn the lessons we need to understand not just how countries have differed but why. There are five major areas for investigation:

• The proportion of the population infected before lockdown. This depends on where and how widely the virus was introduced, how quickly it spread and the timing of the lockdown measures.
• The spread of the virus through the population after lockdown. Some of the factors affecting this are lockdown policies and adherence, the availability of PPE, how testing was used, and the protection given to care homes.
• How at risk the population was, for example, the prevalence of risk factors such as obesity.
• Access to and the quality of health care received by patients with COVID-19.
• Health care for non-COVID-19 patients.

[AtW]

People die to make Tory Party look bad

[vetran]

People die to make Tory Party look bad

I think they managed that without the death. I don't think they expected the NHS to actively spread it to care homes.

[AtW]

I think they managed that without the death. I don't think they expected the NHS to actively spread it to care homes.

They (Tory Party) did not expect a highly infectious (and deadly) virus will spread everywhere without strict mitigation measures?

[OwlHoot]

I think they managed that without the death. I don't think they expected the NHS to actively spread it to care homes.

Must admit, that was a scandal, as was continuing to allow temps to dot between multiple care homes for short stints at each

[Lance]

I agree with most of it except the obesity thing.
It's wildly overstated how much impact it has on Covid deaths. Morbid obesity is pretty bad if you have Covid, but obese and overweight are very low factors.
Age is the big factor. And that was known a year ago.

So quite how the catastrofook in care homes happened is bizarre. But like Grenfell, they'll take far too long and blame so many in the chain that any justice will be totally watered down, and just the victims families left with the sh1t.

[SueEllen]

I agree with most of it except the obesity thing.
It's wildly overstated how much impact it has on Covid deaths. Morbid obesity is pretty bad if you have Covid, but obese and overweight are very low factors.
Age is the big factor. And that was known a year ago.

So quite how the catastrofook in care homes happened is bizarre. But like Grenfell, they'll take far too long and blame so many in the chain that any justice will be totally watered down, and just the victims families left with the sh1t.

All 100K+ of them at the current count.

[Hobosapien]

Care home outbreaks and deaths are still happening, this from my local news site:

Covid deaths and outbreaks confirmed at three more Cornwall care homes - Cornwall Live

If all the vulnerable have been vaccinated then any deaths may be due to normal causes and not covid, unless the vaccine isn't that good at preventing death of people in 'god's waiting room'.

In the meantime the local figures are being driven by such outbreaks while the rest of the population are forced to lockdown. Like banning all from driving coz a few muppets wrapped their care home daytrip bus around a tree.

[SueEllen]

Care home outbreaks and deaths are still happening, this from my local news site:

Covid deaths and outbreaks confirmed at three more Cornwall care homes - Cornwall Live

If all the vulnerable have been vaccinated then any deaths may be due to normal causes and not covid, unless the vaccine isn't that good at preventing death of people in 'god's waiting room'.

In the meantime the local figures are being driven by such outbreaks while the rest of the population are forced to lockdown. Like banning all from driving coz a few muppets wrapped their care home daytrip bus around a tree.

Young people live in care homes and they aren't all waiting for god.

[northernladuk]

[PC]Covid deaths aren't important[/PC]