Originally posted by WTFH
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostI'm equally amazed at how the older generation - who didn't fight in world wars, but had free university education, free school meals, tax relief on their mortgages, etc, spend all the country's money and sold off anything of value - whether that was council housing, British gas or British gold - then blame young people for being annoyed that the country has been sold by those who freeloaded through life and have left young people burdened with the debt.
Voted conservative in 79. so we are looking at anyone aged like 60 and over, got a degree, got school meals or free.
Could you please find me an opinion from a degree holding 60 year old plus that got school meals who is blaming "young people"?Comment
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Originally posted by WTFH View Post
Prediction is 43 million infected, 1.46 million dead (at the current rate of 3.4%)
We'll hit the limit on infections in about another 4 weeks, although if extra hygiene measures are in place, that might reduce the limit to around 30 million, and in 16 weeks time, with deaths reduced to under 1 millionComment
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Originally posted by minestrone View PostYou defo got this right.
Which bit is wrong, so far?
With no measures, it would be around 1.4 million (or as you lied, “2 million”)
With basic hygiene, drops to 900,000
With social distancing, drops to around 110,000
Like I said all along…Maybe we ain’t that young anymoreComment
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostWhich bit is wrong, so far?
With no measures, it would be around 1.4 million (or as you lied, “2 million”)
With basic hygiene, drops to 900,000
With social distancing, drops to around 110,000
Like I said all along
You suggested there would be 110,000 deaths with social distancing, and yet we've only had 34,000 to date with death rates reducing. And we've only faced this many deaths because we imported infected patients into care homes, which isn't exactly 'social distancing'.
We were never going to get 1.4 million deaths. The model that predicted that is flawed.
But, by all means keep scare mongering if you see the need, or you can look at the facts. Your choice.I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter manComment
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Originally posted by Whorty View PostAnd we've only faced this many deaths because we imported infected patients into care homes, which isn't exactly 'social distancing'.But I discovered nothing else but depraved, excessive superstition. Pliny the youngerComment
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Originally posted by Gibbon View PostAs I've said elsewhere this is not as you make out. Care homes don't have take anyone from hospital, they can decline, obviously they didn't, and then didn't quarantine properly when they did.I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter manComment
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Originally posted by Whorty View PostReally, you're asking which bits are wrong? How about all of it.
You suggested there would be 110,000 deaths with social distancing, and yet we've only had 34,000 to date with death rates reducing. And we've only faced this many deaths because we imported infected patients into care homes, which isn't exactly 'social distancing'.
We were never going to get 1.4 million deaths. The model that predicted that is flawed.
But, by all means keep scare mongering if you see the need, or you can look at the facts. Your choice.
34,000? Are you sure?
According to the ONS, it was over 33,800 up to 30th April. So to get to 34,000 would mean we're averaging 10 a day since then.
And that's based on the figures that we know of.
Then again, last time I checked, the UK figures are over 3,000 new cases per day, so it's not exactly under control either.…Maybe we ain’t that young anymoreComment
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Originally posted by Whorty View PostWhether they declined or not, the fact is that infected patients were imported into an environment which is enclosed and is surely a high risk location for the spread of viruses. I'm not saying the NHS are at fault for sending the patients back, or the care homes are at fault for not rejecting them (others can apportion blame as they see fit), but the fact that this happened in itself increased the number of infections and deaths in the UK.But I discovered nothing else but depraved, excessive superstition. Pliny the youngerComment
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Originally posted by Gibbon View PostBut it shouldn't have done in a properly run home, that is the point. Care homes are meant to cope with infections. The other day on the local news they had a privatecare home celebrating VE day, all the old people huddled together with the staff, wearing no PPE. Our lass was going ballistic.
I agree that care homes should be environments that cope with viruses, but clearly they can't.I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter manComment
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