Originally posted by SueEllen
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We can't start deporting people we effectively invited here when we are done using them, even the Home office & Tories screwed up Windrush by incompetence not design. If we want to issue 5 year work permits for highly skilled migrants and encourage skill exchange that could work.
Even if they are only here for a few years we still need somewhere for them to live we have 10 million more people and nowhere enough dwellings for them. Anyway why should a Doctor or a nurse sleep on a mattress on the floor so you can get cheap health care - it works the same for care workers, they have a right to decent accommodation and if they wish their family with them.
Plenty of older people can work longer and by activity prolong their health. Both my father & father in law worked into their seventies by choice. Many friends are working into their seventies as painter decorators, builders, IT experts. I have every intention to continue my career into my sixties & seventies part time so I can enjoy the challenge and wait for my young wife to catch up with me in retirement.
Seems our young are not as strong as they once were.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentand...ess/2022-11-10
However, the biggest relative increase was seen among those aged 25 to 34 years, who made up 11% of those inactive because of long-term sickness in April to June 2019, and 14% in the same period in 2022 (97,000 more). Of these, nearly 60,000 (61%) were men.
The rise for this age group has been more pronounced since the start of the pandemic (3% between 2019 and 2020, 12% between 2020 and 2021, and 22% between 2021 and 2022). However, for those aged 50 to 64 years, increases in inactivity because of long-term sickness began before the pandemic hit, but have increased again in the last year (5% between 2019 and 2020, 2% between 2020 and 2021, and 8% between 2021 and 2022).
The rise for this age group has been more pronounced since the start of the pandemic (3% between 2019 and 2020, 12% between 2020 and 2021, and 22% between 2021 and 2022). However, for those aged 50 to 64 years, increases in inactivity because of long-term sickness began before the pandemic hit, but have increased again in the last year (5% between 2019 and 2020, 2% between 2020 and 2021, and 8% between 2021 and 2022).
If we can't automate (the big companies already are :- Kiosks to take orders, robots to replace burger flippers, delivery drones, robotic care assistants etc) then we will subsidise it via working tax credit as the number of low skilled jobs shrink and pay falls.
Also most people are fine with high monetary value migrants but our lack management means many are cheap labour or criminals. Not all, but a surprising number are.
If you want to allow Doctors, Nurses, Architects to come there is a points system but most immigrants have not come via that route.
The Asylum system is being horrifically abused and a large percentage of 'Asylum seekers' have not only come via safe first world countries who would refuse their application but also are actually from safe countries.
The family reunification route is driving health issues with cousins marrying their first cousins and a raise in preventable disability normally seen in medieval Royal families.
The reason many old people live in 3-4 bedroom houses 'unsuitable for their needs' is that they bought & paid for them, do they not deserve to enjoy them? Maybe consider allowing the moving of the money from the sale of a primary residence to your pension and to your estate on death?
Alternatively they won the lottery of social housing and pay a third of the monthly value of the house like Bob Crowe or Mike Lynch subsidised by other taxpayers. If its too big they whine about paying £10 a month for a spare room.
The reason why there is a shortage of suitable housing is multiple governments failed to build housing to accommodate an increasing population.
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