Getting a bit politically correct round here...

[northernladyuk]

I replied to mudskipper, I agree with what GJABS is saying so I'm really not following you.

My point is liberals won't tolerate bigots, racists and sexists unless their muslim because they are tulip scared of them.

Does that clarify things?

I am liberal and I won't tolerate bigots, racists and sexists whether or not they are Muslim because I am not tulip scared of them.

Does that clarify things?

I do sometimes think European far right wing nuts would be happier in a misogynistic and homophobic dictatorship like Saudi.

[vetran]

on my summer holiday, on the beach, I read my first Terry Pratchett book, recommended by a friend, "Guards, Guards!".

I gotta say, CUK could actually be one of the "guilds" in a Terry Pratchett book

surreal isn't it

Milan.

welcome to the Pratchett reading Guild !

[DimPrawn]

Well we are cracking down on bigots, racism and sexism, that's true enough.

I wondered why it's so quiet here these days.

CUK, a place for homogenised, humourless bremoaning snowflakes.

Enjoy the dull negative atmosphere everyone!

[GJABS]

I wondered why it's so quiet here these days.

CUK, a place for homogenised, humourless bremoaning snowflakes.

Enjoy the dull negative atmosphere everyone!

At the end of the day it comes down to money. If the site's owner finds that hit rates and activity is going down, then advert revenue will reduce, and he'll take steps to reverse that change. Hell in the circumstances I might offer myself as a pro-politically-incorrectness moderator

[cojak]

Well if you can only find humour in the 1970's you might be waiting a while...

[northernladyuk]

I wondered why it's so quiet here these days.

CUK, a place for homogenised, humourless bremoaning snowflakes.

Enjoy the dull negative atmosphere everyone!

How is Swindon treating you?

[Mordac]

Well if you can only find humour in the 1970's you might be waiting a while...

Titter ye not...

[excon]

I am liberal and I won't tolerate bigots, racists and sexists whether or not they are Muslim because I am not tulip scared of them.

Does that clarify things?

I do sometimes think European far right wing nuts would be happier in a misogynistic and homophobic dictatorship like Saudi.

Good for you, I must admit your a braver person than me, I'd be too tulip scared to draw a cartoon of the prophet let alone stand up to their sexism, homophobia, bigotry and racism.

For example look at this:

Asad Shah death: Man admits killing shopkeeper because he 'disrespected' Islam - BBC News

All the guy did was wish Christians a Happy Easter and some nut job was straight up the motorway to kill him for "disrespecting" Islam.

That is the level of bat tulip crazy we are talking about, like I said bravo to you for calling that tulip out.

On a related note i think Karl Popper had this nailed back in 1945, "The Paradox of Tolerance". I think it sums up the danger of current left wing liberal dogma quite nicely.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Less well known is the paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.

 In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise.

But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.

[northernladyuk]

Good for you, I must admit your a braver person than me, I'd be too tulip scared to draw a cartoon of the prophet let alone stand up to their sexism, homophobia, bigotry and racism.

For example look at this:

Asad Shah death: Man admits killing shopkeeper because he 'disrespected' Islam - BBC News

All the guy did was wish Christians a Happy Easter and some nut job was straight up the motorway to kill him for "disrespecting" Islam.

That is the level of bat tulip crazy we are talking about, like I said bravo to you for calling that tulip out.

On a related note i think Karl Popper had this nailed back in 1945, "The Paradox of Tolerance". I think it sums up the danger of current left wing liberal dogma quite nicely.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Less well known is the paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.

 In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise.

But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.

I used to work in an office with four permie colleagues, all of whom were religious and from ethnic minorities. We had a good banter going on and I never once got stabbed or anything for pulling one of them up on homophobia. They were three Christians and a Muslim as it happens. You shouldn't live your life in fear of an occasional nut job.

Thanks for the Popper link. Will take a look.

[woohoo]

I used to work in an office with four permie colleagues, all of whom were religious and from ethnic minorities. We had a good banter going on and I never once got stabbed or anything for pulling one of them up on homophobia. They were three Christians and a Muslim as it happens. You shouldn't live your life in fear of an occasional nut job.

Thanks for the Popper link. Will take a look.

It's not really the occasional nut job though is it. There are communities in this country if you went there and said something against their religion you would have trouble getting out of there.

I worked over in Belfast a few years back and same thing, say something out of turn to do with religion and you could be in serious trouble.