Originally posted by Jog On
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Hipster causes murder on a bike
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https://www.theguardian.com/environm...driving-charge
Some press reports were full of language (“ploughed into” etc) that is seldom seen when a car driver (or as was being dealt with in a nearby court, a speeding motorcycle rider) runs down a pedestrian.
If it is going to make any meaningful contribution to the reduction of danger on the roads, our criminal justice system needs to recalibrate away from the prejudice that motoring is innocuous and cycling dangerous and towards controlling the behaviour of those imposing greatest risk.Comment
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Hipster causes murder on a bike
Cyclist who knocked down a mother-of-two had a ghoulish tattoo
http://dailym.ai/2xf4U2b
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Originally posted by BrilloPad View Posthttps://www.theguardian.com/environm...driving-charge
Some press reports were full of language (“ploughed into” etc) that is seldom seen when a car driver (or as was being dealt with in a nearby court, a speeding motorcycle rider) runs down a pedestrian.
If it is going to make any meaningful contribution to the reduction of danger on the roads, our criminal justice system needs to recalibrate away from the prejudice that motoring is innocuous and cycling dangerous and towards controlling the behaviour of those imposing greatest risk.
But - and it's a big but - I've seen lots of cyclists put themselves and others in danger by ignoring what's happening around them (and that includes me having to crash stop a four ton motorhome in the middle of a busy roundabout to miss some dickhead that thought he had a perfect right to turn left in front of me without looking). The ones that have tunnel vision, headcams and earphones are the real danger, not the 90% that take even rudimentary care.
And yes, I've also seen drivers put cyclists at risk, and they are equally moronic. However they are at least identifiable. If boyo had kept going and not stopped to blame the poor woman he hit, he'd likely still be free.Blog? What blog...?Comment
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Originally posted by BrilloPad View PostYou really don't get it do you? The thing is that in London pedestrians are always jumping out in front of bikes, cars, lorries. Cyclists are silent - hopefully soon all vehicles will be electric then pedestrians will have to take more care.
I also hope something comes of this. Pedestrians stop behaving like lemmings. Crucifixion would be nice.
Did he fail to stop or refuse to stop? Cyclists don't like to stop because they lose their speed and momentum. This would be relevant if it was a race situation but on the public roads that everyone is using as a means of getting from A to B everyone has to stop whether they want to or not.
No one wants to stop - everyone has to - including pedestrians."Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon MuskComment
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Originally posted by malvolio View PostThat'll be the ones in control (to some extent) of the machine doing the damage then... aka all of them.
But - and it's a big but - I've seen lots of cyclists put themselves and others in danger by ignoring what's happening around them (and that includes me having to crash stop a four ton motorhome in the middle of a busy roundabout to miss some dickhead that thought he had a perfect right to turn left in front of me without looking). The ones that have tunnel vision, headcams and earphones are the real danger, not the 90% that take even rudimentary care.
And yes, I've also seen drivers put cyclists at risk, and they are equally moronic. However they are at least identifiable. If boyo had kept going and not stopped to blame the poor woman he hit, he'd likely still be free.
Oh and a good part of the reason he was taken to court was CCTV."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
I also hope something comes of this. Pedestrians stop behaving like lemmings. Crucifixion would be nice.“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View PostCyclist who knocked down a mother-of-two had a ghoulish tattoo
London cyclist who knocked down a mother had skull tattoo | Daily Mail Online
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Originally posted by malvolio View PostThat'll be the ones in control (to some extent) of the machine doing the damage then... aka all of them.
But - and it's a big but - I've seen lots of cyclists put themselves and others in danger by ignoring what's happening around them (and that includes me having to crash stop a four ton motorhome in the middle of a busy roundabout to miss some dickhead that thought he had a perfect right to turn left in front of me without looking). The ones that have tunnel vision, headcams and earphones are the real danger, not the 90% that take even rudimentary care.
And yes, I've also seen drivers put cyclists at risk, and they are equally moronic. However they are at least identifiable. If boyo had kept going and not stopped to blame the poor woman he hit, he'd likely still be free.
Same applies for pedestrians though. Chap I work with had big injuries due to pedestrians jumping in front of him in Shepherds bush. They ran off. They should be equally identifiable.Comment
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Originally posted by Jog On View PostComing off worse and getting injured/killed is the current penalty it would seem. I'm not saying pedestrians are blameless - especially phone zombies. The point I'm making here is around this cyclist's attitude and how he was riding.
Did he fail to stop or refuse to stop? Cyclists don't like to stop because they lose their speed and momentum. This would be relevant if it was a race situation but on the public roads that everyone is using as a means of getting from A to B everyone has to stop whether they want to or not.
No one wants to stop - everyone has to - including pedestrians.
Sometimes cyclists are unwilling to stop - and blame should be apportioned for that.
My father died when I was 6. I really feel sorry for the children and clearly they want someone to blame. And the bloke has the majority of the blame - a complete bell end and I am pleased he will be off the road for a while.
Some of the blame lies with the pedestrian who crossed the road looking at her phone.Comment
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