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    Slightly more seriously, I have a close relative who suffers Asperger Syndrome. The statistics are that more than 90% of people with this condition are unemployed. This relative got a cracking maths degree and is now a civil servant. But he got many, many knock backs from employers because he can't really do interviews at all well. As a matter of fact, the civil service recruitment now does not have interviews. He got the job. Diversity? Many big household name employers missed out on employing this young person who will make a fantastic, loyal and very productive employee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by original PM View Post
    Seeing as I can apparently define my own gender label on a daily basis - what is gender?

    And who is anyone to say who 'understands' it.
    Maybe the author of the riposte should have said something like "Iím not going to spend any length of time on (1); if anyone wishes to provide details as to how nearly every statement about gender in that entire document is actively incorrect, and flies directly in the face of all research done in the field for decades, they should go for it. But I am neither a biologist, a psychologist, nor a sociologist, so Iíll leave that to someone else."

    Oh, wait - they did

    No doubt people well versed in the relevant fields have taken up this task over the last couple of days. If you're really that concerned to understand that aspect more fully, try Googling for them

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    Having just trawled through his little epic..

    My main impression is... I bet he's really fun to talk to at parties.

    Oh wait.. I'll bet he doesn't get invited to them
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    Quote Originally Posted by cojak View Post
    That depends on your perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveB View Post
    She was also seen wielding a riding crop with good effect, despite a distinct lack of horses in the vicininty

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickFitz View Post
    Maybe the author of the riposte should have said something like "I’m not going to spend any length of time on (1); if anyone wishes to provide details as to how nearly every statement about gender in that entire document is actively incorrect, and flies directly in the face of all research done in the field for decades, they should go for it. But I am neither a biologist, a psychologist, nor a sociologist, so I’ll leave that to someone else."
    I read that as him making a definitive statement that (1) was wrong, followed immediately by an admission that he had absolutely no relevant expertise which would lend his opinion on that any weight. So he was relying solely on received wisdom.

    In fact the author of the riposte came across to me as a somewhat sanctimonious and smug virtue signaller simply parroting the conventional pieties about gender diversity, and the dire penalties for challenging these.

    Of course that isn't to say the author of the original piece wasn't ill advised to say the least, in trumpeting it all over Google.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Bloggs View Post
    Slightly more seriously, I have a close relative who suffers Asperger Syndrome. The statistics are that more than 90% of people with this condition are unemployed. This relative got a cracking maths degree and is now a civil servant. But he got many, many knock backs from employers because he can't really do interviews at all well. As a matter of fact, the civil service recruitment now does not have interviews. He got the job. Diversity? Many big household name employers missed out on employing this young person who will make a fantastic, loyal and very productive employee.
    I have 2 children with Aspergers.

    In a workplace, you have to be abe to get on with people.

    I train the children to devote some brain-power to communicating with people.

    Which is what I did.

    Its a normal world. Whatever the hell normal is....
    I keep pushing forwards but they keep pushing me backwards. So I have new rules. 1. Don't feed the trolls you know they have no souls. 2. Don't respond to them they'll only post back back again. 3. Don't be their friend they'll only knife you in the back. I have new rules I count them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlHoot View Post
    I read that as him making a definitive statement that (1) was wrong...
    Not sure how you came to that conclusion

    Quote Originally Posted by OwlHoot View Post
    ...followed immediately by an admission that he had absolutely no relevant expertise which would lend his opinion on that any weight. So he was relying solely on received wisdom.
    I know it's unfashionable for somebody on the Internet to admit that others are better equipped than they to talk about a very specific subject, but I can't help but wonder if it might be a good thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by OwlHoot View Post
    In fact the author of the riposte came across to me as a somewhat sanctimonious and smug virtue signaller simply parroting the conventional pieties about gender diversity, and the dire penalties for challenging these.
    Ah, "virtue signalling" - in other words, characterising somebody's intention to behave in a manner they believe to be morally correct as a failing of theirs, in the same way that arguing for others who may happen to be different from oneself to be treated decently and fairly is dismissed as "political correctness"

    Trotting out alt-right phraseology is not the same as arguing a point, and you should be careful not to confuse the two.

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    Didn't realise NickFitz was part of the urban tree hugging lefty liberal elite...

    Ah no - he does have manners and doesn't think people different to him are automatically inferior...
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    Diversity is great.

    Inclusivity can be an issue. When you have to include cretins.
    I keep pushing forwards but they keep pushing me backwards. So I have new rules. 1. Don't feed the trolls you know they have no souls. 2. Don't respond to them they'll only post back back again. 3. Don't be their friend they'll only knife you in the back. I have new rules I count them.

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