How to commit career suicide - moan about diversity

[Fred Bloggs]

Depends where you work.

High heels can be a safety hazard.

Understood, but the riggers boots don't go too well with the dress.

[cojak]

Understood, but the riggers boots don't go too well with the dress.

That depends on your perspective.

I wore 14 hole Dockers with a full petticoat dress only a few weeks ago...

[Fred Bloggs]

That depends on your perspective.

I wore 14 hole Dockers with a full petticoat dress only a few weeks ago...

You trendy little tinker cjk. We need to see the proof of that

[original PM]

Indeed.

I work for a company who embrace diversity.

In general it is fine but at times you end up with tokenism - which ultimately damages the company as you are not recruiting the best people you are recruiting the people to fill up your 'quota'

[SueEllen]

Indeed.

I work for a company who embrace diversity.

In general it is fine but at times you end up with tokenism - which ultimately damages the company as you are not recruiting the best people you are recruiting the people to fill up your 'quota'

Well that's just stupid

If you cannot hire someone then leave the role unfilled.

Personally most companies I've been in the issues have been with young white middle class males. And I'm not saying other groups haven't caused problems.

[original PM]

Well that's just stupid

If you cannot hire someone then leave the role unfilled.

Personally most companies I've been in the issues have been with young white middle class males. And I'm not saying other groups haven't caused problems.

Indeed - the right person for the job is the right person for the job - their colour/creed/sex etc should not even come into it.

But thats the problem with positive discrimination.

[SueEllen]

Indeed - the right person for the job is the right person for the job - their colour/creed/sex etc should not even come into it.

But thats the problem with positive discrimination.

Nope actually that's not the problem with positive discrimination. The problem is when people they specifically choose don't fulfill the other criteria so can't do the job.

I actually know of an illegal case of positive discrimination years ago. A male teacher was deliberately choose over all the female applicants for a teaching role. The reason he was chosen was to improve the gender balance of the school and the fact there were many children specifically boys without a male role model in their lives.

[NickFitz]

A riposte from somebody who's recently left a fairly senior position at Google: https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/so...o-1e3773ed1788

(1) Despite speaking very authoritatively, the author does not appear to understand gender.

(2) Perhaps more interestingly, the author does not appear to understand engineering.

(3) And most seriously, the author does not appear to understand the consequences of what he wrote, either for others or himself.

[Dark Black]

Indeed - the right person for the job is the right person for the job - their colour/creed/sex etc should not even come into it.

But thats the problem with positive discrimination.

or age...

[original PM]

A riposte from somebody who's recently left a fairly senior position at Google: https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/so...o-1e3773ed1788

Seeing as I can apparently define my own gender label on a daily basis - what is gender?

And who is anyone to say who 'understands' it.